You didn't correct anyone, thats not how you measure power draw, nobody cares if its 7nm or 14nm, whats important is the how much W it takes from the socket and how hot it gets, thats it. You can get philosophical as much as you want, my electric company doesn't care about that. If we go based on Steam data, most people use low end build. How many people own the really expensive AMD CPUs 3900x/3950x3960x compared to cheap ones? I dont care about boards with PCIe gen 2.0 or trash made by asmedia or both [x470 and all the last gen models], Its either x570 or z490. Intel is cheaper because based on benchmarks even 10400 beats all AMD CPUs in Gaming , the discussion was about gaming, so please stay on topic, we discussed gaming here, of course 10600K is better and 10700K is "more better"and so on [I just got 10700K after a year with 9900K and it will be used for my NAS] but if we look at raw benchmark data for GAMING 10400 is enough to be faster in games then all Ryzen CPUs available right now. Also 10400 has no RAM issues, if you install it on the Z mobo it will run RAM modules from the QVL list at advertised speed without any issues, and Intel is not RAM sensitive anyway, people that want to save money can get a nice cheap 2666Mhz kit, better then finding B-Die and then wasting time to optimize it on Ryzen, which regular [keyword: REGULAR] people dont know how and wont ever learn, they just want to plug and play. And Intel ALWAYS has iGPU, you can say its unnecessary, but it has one, it can be used as backup GPU, it can be used instead of dedicated card if you just build BluRay, Media, Amazon/Netflix, email, school, university, excel, word, web machine. You can use QuickSync to encode video so Intel has advantage here, even on cheap CPUs. This is Intel Topic, I can say whatever i want if i stay on topic and about Intel, Real fanboys are the ones that come here and instead of staying on topic, criticize Intel or say how "muh AMD is better".