Hector Ruiz advises Intel to split up

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    First off, Hector Ruiz is the man who is responsible for the state of AMD as it is right now. Now speaking to BusinessWeek, former AMD CEO Hector Ruiz gave some advice to Intel's next CEO on how to t...

    Hector Ruiz advises Intel to split up
     
  2. pimp_gimp

    pimp_gimp Ancient Guru

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    If I were Intel I wouldn't listen to him, as his business strategies are driving AMD into the ground.
     
  3. Neo Cyrus

    Neo Cyrus Ancient Guru

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    Was he the genius who decided that the Bulldozer architecture was a great idea?
     
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    If i were Hector Ruiz id advise him to shut up.
     

  5. nicugoalkeper

    nicugoalkeper Master Guru

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    He wants to destroy Intel like he does whit AMD !
     
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    Why doesn't he just advise them to quit while they're ahead...
     
  7. Solfaur

    Solfaur Ancient Guru

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    After he said that, he probably was like

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    I'm going to suggest to my wife we split up and become a Portfolio Marriage...
     
  9. Loobyluggs

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    I was talking to her the other night, I think she might like that idea :)

    OT: Don't Intel have lots of subs as it is? Not sure of his logic here.
     
  10. Lane

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    Well Ruiz have resign from AMD a long time ago ( 5-6 years ? ).

    Note, the idea of split Intel into 2 independant buisness ( like is doing Samsung ), one for Mobile ( Smarpthone, tablet ) and the other for PC / server processors is not a so bad idea. Now i dont know exactly if it will really change anything. Splitting is not really the word, it is too separate both buisness under the name of Intel. ( intel Mobile, and Intel )
     
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    Honestly, he's just answering a question asked of him, not giving his opinion randomly.

    But anyway, he's just suggesting they put bigger barriers between each section of the company, because as it is now, the company tends to swing one way or the other. His assertion is that that makes them too slow to respond to markets, which is true.

    For instance, all of Intel is in "power management mode" right now. It's just, bring down power, bring down power, at the cost of just about everything else. IPC improvements are slow to nil and clock speed improvements aren't anywhere to be found either.

    The idea is that Intel divides their teams better to keep their desktop processors focused on improvements in performance while the mobile category gets the power consumption down at all costs.

    It's not such a terrible idea. While he was wrong once, it doesn't mean he has to always be wrong.
     
  12. sykozis

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    It's quite obvious that Ruiz knows little to nothing about Intel (which is about what he knows about running a company in general). Intel has their hands in numerous electronics markets in one form or another. Slow to respond isn't exactly what I'd call their reactions. They respond quite quickly to most market changes. Market response doesn't always mean shoving a new product out the door. Sometimes, it simply means acknowledging the changes. Intel has had time to study the mobile market.....to see what works, what doesn't....where they are, and where they need to be. It makes no sense to rush into a market. Intel is well known for quality products....and rushing to get a new product out the door risks product quality. Not something you want happening with your mobile products.... Besides, Intel can push new products out the door very quickly....unlike ARM. Intel has the R&D and Fab capability needed to outpace ARM.....plus they have a license from ARM....what more do they really need? Dividing the company actually risks financial problems later as the desktop market winds down.

    Ruiz resigned? I thought he got fired for being incompetent....
     
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    Doesn't really matter whether he resigned or was fired, Intel should be smarter than to listen, as I said his business strategies suck. Splitting up Intel could be good, but it could also be bad, we don't know but neither does he. Also rather than staying with AMD to fix the mess he created, he resigned. Funny to note that he resigned shortly after they reported a quarterly loss. That makes me question his leadership skills.
     
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    Without Ruiz AMD would have died 10 years ago. The man who saved AMD and fixed other peoples mistakes, without him Intel CPU prices for C2D (and so on) would have been much higher... Also, I wonder who would have bought ATI and where we would on that sector without Ruiz.

    Brilliant man now being given advices and made fun of by few chaps on PC forum who likely dont know anything about CPU design or that market. Not saying that I know either but I was not the one telling him what went wrong what he should have done. It's also damn lot easier to look back and say what went wrong than make those hard decisions at the right time. Buying AMD, K10 and Bulldozer... I dont recall many saying those were bad calls when info about those came public. BTW. Not much you can do when you do not have the resources compared to Intel, you have to cut corners and that can either pay off big time or cause big problems.

    Worth reading:
    http://www.overclockers.com/the-man-who-killed-amd/
     
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    I read an article a couple years ago that that read similar to that one. I have said from the beginning that the biggest mistake AMD ever made was buying ATI. When they could of sunk that $5 billion into R&D for their CPUs.
     

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    well the 5b went to R&D for ATI cards I guess cause they way more advanced compared to the cpu of amd lmao
     
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    yeah this guy is killing AMD and he is giving advice's to Intel to what? go in the ground?
    Maybe it would be good idea for him and AMD to split up. Why o why did AMD ever bought ATI???..
     
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    This guy hasn't been employeed by amd for years, so please explain how he is killing the company. :3eyes:
     

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