It is a theoretical comparison but let's just wait for reviews; just an example why in practice there is more to AMD vs Nvidia battle than specs: the number of shader units doesn't necessarily translate in more performance (they were never clocked the same so no chance for same performance): 8800gt had 112 shader units and the 4830 had 640, still they were in the same performance league. I think that it will be exactly like last gen: AMD will win some, lose some (by very small margins) in rasterization and lose on RT, the incentive being the price IF Nvidia doesn't slash prices on the 4080 at the 999 barrier as rumored and AMD will not have the also "rumored" supply issues.
Yeah, that's why I said "assuming equal shader processor performance" - but as we know the SMs are NOT equal.
Yes, I saw - you were right to specify. But again I think that it will be like last gen... To tell the truth I can't wait for next week - new hardware real performance reviews are always exciting - the rumors, the naked truth, the drama, the intrigue
It is quite unusual that there isn't even a cutout in the area of the die. But I guess it makes little difference in thermal performance; all the heat generating components are on the other side after all. Though we might see some thermal pads between the backplate and PCB.
It's a fantastic looking card except for the backplate. C'mon AMD, that's the part that is usually seen the most. You can do better there.
Looks like a tight package, barely over two slots. I am sure these will jump quite a bit in price, but I appreciate the "somewhat" reasonable MSRP.
This is cool on paper, but for the past 2 or 3 gens high end AMD cards are woefully understocked for the first 6-9 months (which inflates the price) and I don't expect this launch to be any different.
Yep, but too late for me... I have made my bed already this generation and stuck with it. TBH I would have chosen this anyway for RTX reasons, only price is not great.
IF you are nailing these numbers precisely to the point in reviews I'm gonna have to ask you about next week lottery numbers. After the expenses that I made this year on pc hardware and my baby (my car) it is winning the lottery or move with the whole family to my parents basement accepting that I am a failure and disappointment.
I bought one for my wife as a birthday gift - I am impressed- runs cool, great power efficiency and great performance - it is (IMHO) really the best GPU from Nvidia since Pascal except, as you said, for the price.
MCM is just another bottleneck that will ad extra latency issues, as raytracing and gddr wasn't already a problem. raytracing hates latency since it needs random access most of time outside cache. A huge L3 cache would brought much better benefits for sure.. AMD put 2000 limit on 6xx0 series for a reason: those mem chips were already pushed on limits on first release.
l3 cache is actually smaller on rdna3 than rdna2, and on separate chiplets.clocks are lower on n31 than n21. wonder how all that plays out in the end.
imo by far the best looking reference card made by AMD. I actually like the look a lot and they would fit my build very well. Cooler looks good now it remains to be seen if it will perform good. Ray tracing is slowly starting to be relevant though and from the look of it (own AMD charts) RT performance will again be underwhelming FSR (2.2) has been improving more than RT performance if AMD charts are accurate.
latency is lower on rdna3 according to amds slides , they increased the fabric clock speed to compensate for the increased latency that come with chiplets. edit:slide in question
Maybe you are right about the extra latency but MCM is the future of GPUs in one way or another. After all, there`s a limit to how big monolithic GPUs can be.