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Z390 Aorus XTREME Waterforce with big liquid cooling waterblock

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Dec 12, 2018.

  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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  2. fantaskarsef

    fantaskarsef Ancient Guru

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    I mean, finally they've gotten the right idea and go for monoblocks on mainboards too, but... this thing looks like Michael Bay rebooted it into an RGB transformer.
     
  3. Koniakki

    Koniakki Ancient Guru

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    Okay.... That's a damn nice looking sexy piece of hardware there!

    *Even tho you can go for a different mobo with solid vrms + a monoblock at probably half the price..
     
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    Do you plan a test/review of the Aorus Z390 Xtrem board soon ?
     

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    Good VRW on this one I assume. Most of these Z390 boards are not good when parred with a 9900k at full tilt. Buyers should beware. Frankly, buyers are insane buying a 9900k anyways. Too much $$.
     
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    Porno-board Super nice but 700€??? No one has one more to give me? ahahahaha
     
  7. Koniakki

    Koniakki Ancient Guru

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    Actually this time around(Z390) most mid-end and upwards Gigabyte boards have the best or some of the best and high praised vrms.

    Posted on OC.net from GB rep: Z390 VRM List

    And the reason behind such an improvement on design from Gigabyte can probably be attributed to the whole Z370 Gaming 7 vrm heatsink issues and some others like bad reception of Z370 Ultra Gaming rev1.0 etc.

    Similarly to what happened with EVGA's gpu cooler issues(ACX iirc) where they revised/replaced it with the much improved ICX.
     
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    Undying Ancient Guru

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    Damn, what a badass board.
     
  9. Fox2232

    Fox2232 Ancient Guru

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    What do I do when CPU or chipset block corrodes? Buy a new MB? I am pretty sure that Gigabyte will blame wrong liquid for it. (Like any other manufacturer would.)

    So any idea what is expected lifetime of that cooling? I guess it is much shorter than amount of time someone who buys it expects as it will be likely paired with damn good CPU too. (Which will not become obsolete any time soon.)
     
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    fantaskarsef Ancient Guru

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    Why are you afraid of corrosion? If you set up the loop properly, it shouldn't be too bad. And anyway, they want to sell you another board soon afterwards ;)
     

  11. jura11

    jura11 Ancient Guru

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    Hi there

    Never heard about CPU or VRM or PCH block would corrode, there are few things which you should be aware like not mixing metals copper/nickel/brass and aluminium

    If you are using or running nickel plated blocks like is this then don't use silver coil

    Companies blaming coolant or liquid, yes this is normal and you should be aware of that, when you start to go route of water cooling,as previously I said you shouldn't mix metals like nickel and silver coil, because nickel plating will start to peel off, you can mix nickel and brass or copper, other materials you shouldn't never mix is copper/nickel/brass and aluminium

    Most of liquids or coolants have biocide and inhibitors already and you shouldn't use any biocides/inhibitors or silver coil etc with these coolants/liquids

    My friend has used on his loop Heatkiller IV Pro Nickel plated block and 2*GPUs copper blocks with two 360mm radiators and he used distilled water with silver kill coil and on his Heatkiller IV Pro nickel plating started to peel off after few weeks of use

    Expected lifetime of this product, really depends how you take care of your loop, I have at home copper CPU block Aquacomputer Kryos HF which is more than 4 years old and use this block on my X99 5960x for more than 2 years on my loop, similarly have few parts which are 2-3 years old and they're still like new, I would expect lifetime should be pretty long, just not sure who is making this block but I'm suspecting is Bykski as they're been their OEM for their Waterforce GPU but maybe I'm wrong on this

    Have look I'm stil on X99, with which I'm currently stuck just due my board(ASRock X99 WS) do have 7*PCI_E slots and 10*SATA ports but I have planned switch to ThreadRipper TR4 several times but I just couldn't find board which offers 10*SATA ports, 6-7*PCI_E slots and due this I postponing switch

    X299 is not option right now as there I think is only Asus X299 Sage and mainly I don't trust Asus boards, have bad experience with their X99 PLX boards

    But back to yours question,people who will buy this probably will understand what he can and what can't do

    I'm just not sure how good VRM have this board, have built for friend with Asus Maximus X Formula and other friend have Maximus XI Formula as well with 9900k and both boards have water cooled VRM and temperatures on VRM are pretty much in 45°C under heavy load or stress

    Hope this helps

    Thanks, Jura
     
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    Hmm, 700€... Thats what my tripple 280mm rad,EK monoblock for Z370 Strix, EK D5 res/pump watercooling setup cost in total :)
     
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    @jura11 : Very long post for denying and confirming same thing. Go check youtube or google. Anyway, even AIOs get goo in between fins and in radiators. So it is not like it is preventable or you claim to be above all those manufacturers and have miracle.

    Only way to keep liquid cooling clean and without any kind of damage is to have fluid which is not able to do ion transfer. But if such fluid exists, it would be super expensive.

    I bet you heard about distilled water being non-conductive. It will not remain as such for long inside liquid cooling loop due to ion exchange. Any chemical addition to H2O will not prevent this because it is still H2O.
     
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    jura11 Ancient Guru

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    Hi there

    There are not many radiators which comes clean from solder flux, I have owned few makers of radiators like XSPC, EK, Hardware Labs, Magicool etc and most of the radiators have need to be cleaned at least before the use, I use Mayhems Blitz or vinegar solution for cleaning the radiators

    In most of the AIO as coolant is based on Ethylene Glycol,because is long lasting coolant and regarding the goo(rubbish) inside the AIO, please check what tubing is used on most of AIO and then you understand, why you can see this rubbish in fins, but many times deionized water itself is not clean from rubbish and many companies use deionized water rather than distilled which is harder to get or is more expensive

    I usually change coolant every year and coolant has been clean or clear, have run Mayhems Pastel which has been clean/clear after 2 years of constant use

    As first when you are deciding go route of custom water cooling loop,you must decide if are you ready do every year basic maintenance like once per year or two clean and open waterblock which is easy and I do that every year and checking if inside of block is clean, top up coolant and replace soft tubing if its starts to yellowing or in worst case tubing will leach which is normal with some tubing, due this I use EK ZMT EPDM tubing which should last at least 3 years

    Yup that's fact, distilled or deionized is non conductive when is in bottle etc but when comes to contact with any metal, DI water starts to be conductive

    You shouldn't run alone DI water, because DI doesn't offer anti algae properties and mainly doesn't have anti corrosion properties, something like Biocide Extreme from Mayhems is good thing to use with DI water alone if you wish, but prepare to change water more frequently than with normal coolants which have all these properties

    Hope this helps

    Thanks, Jura
     

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