YouTube has discontinued testing high image quality for paying viewers

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Meathelix1 Member Guru

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    10 ads before the video would play... is this becoming a TV station?
     
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    emperorsfist Ancient Guru

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    I think that's the idea.
     
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    Espionage724 Master Guru

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    No, because you usually get to pay for the privilege of seeing those ads with TV :p

    As long as YT remains free and as long as I'm not getting 10 ads or so when trying to view a quick tech video, I think it's fine.
     

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    Google has been adding ads in search results, trying to remove adblock with their V3, more ads, premium youtube.
    All of that is mostly going in the direction on increasing their profits but the truth is that people will move to the "next" free and good thing.

    It will probably take a while until people leave, same as it was with radio and TV.
     
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    But YT doesn't have cost creating contents like a TV station
     
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    mackintosh Master Guru

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    Funny, I thought lots of people made their living off their channels. I wonder who's paying them.
     
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    asturur Maha Guru

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    Platforms aren't free, you know bandwidth, servers, tech engineers.
    People get monetized for videos ( some of them ).

    They cut a large profit yes, but saying that is a free busineess for them, no.
     
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    Probably their patreons and some sponsors, youtube money is marginal until you have millions of reproductions per month.
     
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    uBlock Origin still works.
     

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    Charlie bit my finger (YT video) sold for $760,999

     
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    I have account with and without premium because I find advertising fascinating. I love watching how companies try to get you to buy stuff. My career was in IT but if I could do everything all over again, I think I would have been just as happy in advertising.

    Watching YT on my account without premium makes it pretty obvious that YT is attempting to upsell premium through annoying me with ads that have absolutely nothing to do with anything I have ever searched for. Sometimes my ads are not even in English.
     
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    I've felt that if Google needs to annoy users this much because of expenses, they need to find ways to reduce operation costs. Youtube's main appeal was being free. Google arguably made it better by allowing content creators to get paid, but now there are too many people trying to be "influencers", and it's making their operation costs more expensive. This is especially true when you consider all the react channels and the slew of copyright issues they provoke.

    Radio isn't dying for the same reason. With mobile broadband and pretty intelligent car infotainment systems, people can listen to exactly what they want. Most people who use radio alternatives are still experiencing ads.
     
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    Youtube might as well be free, even those ads before the video are just a part of the value to Google. Your Google account (or a unique identifier if you aren't logged in), can be associated with Google adwords and other tracking so they can profile you and serve relevant ads - ie that you are more likely to click on / convert into a sale.

    Services like youtube premium are just another case of Google trying generate more profit and hedge bets in case advertising money one day stalls / slows.
     
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    I have sometimes wondered if I'd still keep my partial shadow ban if I bought Premium membership from Youtube. Like, would they take my money, but still say: "Screw you!" I think they would.
     
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    Adverts on sites such as Youtube are a total fail for me.

    I don't know what the hell they are doing - they must have a gigantic profile on me at this stage but they still cannot serve me a single ad ever, that I have the slightest interest in at all. Maybe they just don't get very interesting advertising clients selling in my country.

    My current favorite WTF ad is some sort of dystopian European Union paid for one which tells me "you are Europe!"... it's very "1984"...

    Also, imagine Netflix gave away their entire service for years and then decided they wanted all their millions of free users to pay for a subscription - sounds like a crazy idea doesn't it?
     
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    youtube should be paying >us< for the crappy quality we've been made to endure till This day !!
    40+ years i've been effing waiting for some damn quality on these expensive rigs and monitors , but
    unfortunately , now we're going to even have to pay to watch crappy 4k clips ,
    that DO NOT LOOK close to being 4k because of what youtube sends through your system with Their junk
     
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    If it contains ads I don't pay, simple as that, if it's free, then i expect a reasonable amount of ads, but i'm definitely NOT paying for a service that includes ads. Talk about taking the P.
     
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    Advertising nowadays is very hard to do as you can't really target what that person really likes, with Apple adding in blockers for tracking, privacy becoming a big thing, and Google and MS and Facebook having to now ask you if you want to be tracked, etc.

    That's why you get ads that you have no clue why the hell you are getting them.

    I 100% understand they need to make money but the thing with big/huge companies you can run at a semi-loss for years. Look at Twitch they haven't even made a cent yet and are still running. As long as their user base is huge then investors will keep investing.

    But anyway 10 ads before a video I think is excessive, people just walk away from the TV after 2 ads. I would just be in another tab if that does become the case.
     

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