X99 rig going under water eventually

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  1. fantaskarsef

    fantaskarsef Ancient Guru

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    Uhm tbh I can't recall now, I will check and note it here once I'm back at home.
     
  2. fantaskarsef

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    The first run of x264FHD bench showed 35.06fps (see below), with temperatures 43-44°C across cores, and quickly dropping back to idle temp of 26-27°C (25°C ambient!).

    Whatever it means, here's x264FHD bench's drop.
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    Intel Core i7-5930K @ 3.5GHz ( 6C / 12T )
     
    x264 0.119.2106kMod 07efeb4
    (libswscale 2.1.0)
    (libavformat 53.17.0)
    (ffmpegsource 2.16.2.1)
    built by Komisar on Oct 23 2011, gcc: 4.4.7 20110720 (prerelease) (x86_64.generic.Komisar)
    configuration: --bit-depth=8 --chroma-format=all
    x264 license: GPL version 2 or later
    libswscale/libavformat/ffmpegsource license: GPL version 2 or later
                                                
    ffms [info]: 1920x1080p 1:1 @ 50/1 fps (vfr)
    
    x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
    
    x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2 AVX
    
    x264 [info]: profile High, level 4.2
    
    x264 [info]: cabac=1 ref=3 deblock=1:0:0 analyse=0x3:0x113 me=hex subme=7 psy=1 fade_compensate=0.00 psy_rd=1.00:0.00 mixed_ref=1 me_range=16 chroma_me=1 trellis=1 8x8dct=1 cqm=0 deadzone=21,11 fast_pskip=1 chroma_qp_offset=-2 threads=18 sliced_threads=0 nr=0 decimate=1 interlaced=0 bluray_compat=0 constrained_intra=0 bframes=3 b_pyramid=2 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=1 weightb=1 open_gop=0 weightp=2 keyint=250 keyint_min=25 scenecut=40 intra_refresh=0 rc_lookahead=40 rc=crf mbtree=1 crf=23.0000 qcomp=0.60 qpmin=0 qpmax=69 qpstep=4 ip_ratio=1.40 aq=1:1.00
    
    x264 [info]: started at Wed May 27 18:41:03 2015
                                                                                   
    x264 [info]: frame I:10    Avg QP:25.24  size:293385
    
    x264 [info]: frame P:1242  Avg QP:28.44  size: 90346
    
    x264 [info]: frame B:1248  Avg QP:31.32  size: 19904
    
    x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames:  8.7% 66.6% 23.2%  1.6%
    
    x264 [info]: mb I  I16..4:  3.6% 76.6% 19.8%
    
    x264 [info]: mb P  I16..4:  0.1%  4.7%  0.8%  P16..4: 38.2% 25.5% 16.0%  0.0%  0.0%    skip:14.7%
    
    x264 [info]: mb B  I16..4:  0.0%  0.4%  0.0%  B16..8: 48.1%  6.2%  1.9%  direct: 4.2%  skip:39.1%  L0:36.0% L1:49.9% BI:14.1%
    
    x264 [info]: 8x8 transform intra:83.2% inter:58.4%
    
    x264 [info]: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 90.8% 82.8% 56.8% inter: 30.4% 19.6% 4.0%
    
    x264 [info]: i16 v,h,dc,p: 17% 37% 10% 35%
    
    x264 [info]: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 11% 25% 16%  5%  7%  6% 12%  6% 12%
    
    x264 [info]: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 15% 21% 13%  7%  8%  7% 11%  7% 11%
    
    x264 [info]: i8c dc,h,v,p: 52% 26% 15%  7%
    
    x264 [info]: Weighted P-Frames: Y:1.0% UV:0.1%
    
    x264 [info]: ref P L0: 70.4% 21.8%  5.9%  2.0%  0.0%
    
    x264 [info]: ref B L0: 90.8%  7.8%  1.4%
    
    x264 [info]: ref B L1: 95.7%  4.3%
    
    x264 [info]: kb/s:22397.57
    
    
    
    encoded 2500 frames, 35.06 fps, 22397.57 kb/s
     
    
    x264 [info]: ended at Wed May 27 18:42:15 2015
    
    x264 [info]: encoding duration 0:01:12
    Cinebench score is 1098points, whatever that means. Temperatures also kept to 43-44°C, and quickly dropping to a few °C above ambient.

    Remember, those are stock temps, cooling is running 52% PWM on the pump and just below 12V on the fans with ~1380rpm.
     
  3. fantaskarsef

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    So I was gaming a bit this weekend, BF4 that is. Temperatures after about two hours of gaming showed: CPU 46°C, GPUs slightly above 40°C, all with ~50% pump and 100% fans.

    I will try to apply an overclock to the CPU next, and see where that takes me temperature wise, but I'm really wondering when I get to that nice part where I can tinker with turning down the fans :D

    By the way, BF4 at 1080p ultra with over 150+fps is nice :banana:
     
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    Nice, glad it is working well:)
     

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    Those are some great temps, now get that thing overclocked:D
     
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    Glad it's all worked out for you in the end, nothing like spending a big wad of cash on a system and getting problems.
     
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    Yeah, thanks guys, it finally feels like it worked. Only that I'm going on vacation next week, not being at home for the rest of the month... no gaming, just as the system works.

    I'll toy with the CPU overclock later today, I'm curious how I should approach this: Overclock the CPU, overclock the GPUs, and then turn down the fans to get it quiet sounds logical, or am I wrong?
     
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    Sounds good.
    OC Cores -> memory -> Uncore -> GPU core -> GPU memory
    But as usual, everything is linked and then OC the graphic card can force you to revisit the CPU parameters (I'm thinking about SA voltage for example)

    Good luck :)
     
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    Just as a small update, 4.5GHz core 4.25GHz uncore with 3000Mhz ram (125 strip) shows idle temperatures of delta t = 8-10°C, while load temperature in CinebenchR15 shows 62-63°C (only a single core on 64). Altough this OC is not yet optimized in terms of voltages, it's rock stable so far, pump still at 52% and fans at constant full rpm.
     
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    Whats max rpm on the fans?
     

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    ehh.. That is not bad for a first trial :)
    You should target 4.7 or 4.8 Ghz if you do not hit a wall like I did.

    As I already said previously, it would be good if in a second step you try 100 MHz bclk.
    Idle temp and power consumption will be even lower :)
     
  12. fantaskarsef

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    Noiseblocker Black Silent Pro PL-2 120/25mm 1400rpm, supposed to be high preasure fans with 1,24mmH2O.
    Here are the links to the manufacturer's presentation and the datasheet.


    The only thing I'm not sure about right now are the temps. I've already seen ~40°C over ambient, and it could technically get 30°C in here on very hot summer days.

    For overclocking process, I had going for a little jump more and see how temperature behaves. But I also must not forget, there's still two GPUs at stock in there, not even the power target has been raised so far, let alone any custom bios or overclocking!
     
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    Well, the build is running well so far, can't complain about the performance.

    Only that I used to get the infamous Clock Watchdog Timeouts, which was due to wrong RAM timings.

    Now I get random lock ups during BF4 (and only BF4), with an occasional dx error message saying something like 'could not get device' or 'could not retrieve device'... which makes me wonder if I have the usual SLI-voltage bug, or if one of my GPUs is faulty, or if there's a problem with my PSU... I'm a bit out of ideas where to start, tbh.
     
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    Need a newer driver for bf4, ive heard some others having problems with the drivers for it. you tried 355.58
     
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    Hmmm nope, currently running 535.62. Will give it a try and see how it goes... I hope it's just a driver problem.
    [edit] I also had the feeling that I wasn't getting too many lock ups / blue screens with previous drivers. Downloading 355.58 as I type.
     
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    Well, I went for the 355.58, and now the latest whql final driver, and still get total system freezes that end up in me doing a hard reset.

    As sometimes I got the 'CPU temperature error' once I got back into bios, I upped the rom curve of the pump. It's running 50% now until 50°C at the CPU, and then goes up to 100% pwm power at 70°C.

    Still I get crashes... recently I got a dx error popup that said my device had insufficient memory... is that related to vram, or what does it mean? I'll see if I can take a screenshot the next time I see it and post it here.


    So far, freezes and dx errors have only been encountered in BF4, though. Shadow of Mordor with HD textures downloaded, and everything set to max in the graphics menu runs fine at 1440p. Sure, I don't get 144fps at all with such settings, but it's definately playable, no crashes, no felt hick ups (Gsync monitor though), no troubles with SoM.


    Any advice?
     
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    If you are refering to the GetDeviceRemovedReason error, i had the same issue, many suspects, but the final fix was to reinstall DX from the "__Install" directory under BF4 in programfiles.
     
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    Yeah, that exact line is in the error messege iirc. Will give this a try today, we'll see if this really helps. And I don't think that BF4 ultra 1440p needs more than 4GB of vram...

    [edit] doing so now, will see how it goes...
     
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    Im running 353.38, no problems whatsoever.
     
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    Well I applied the dxsetup and played a bit today, did not get any freezes / lock ups. But the problem never came regularly, sometimes not at all, other days even twice.

    I think the last driver when I did not notice having such troubles was 352.86 even.

    I guess I will have to play and see how it goes for at least a couple of hours and more than one day to have a valid guess if the new dxsetup really worked.
    If it works, it's back to cpu overclocking, and I guess soon afterwards I'll head to gpu overclocking.
     

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