X58/Xeon X5675 and upcoming GPU advice?

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  1. Undying

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    Hah, not all are porn. :D

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  3. CrazY_Milojko

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    Holy sheeeeeet!!!

    Now that`s what I`m calling: OC with balls :D

    x5650 @ 4.7GHz / 1.464V... is that thing stable 24/7 or at least few hours of stress-test under Prime95?

    In my other rig I`m running x5675 @ 4.6GHz rock-stable 24/7, Prime95, whatever... but no way I`m gonna pass 1.4V to risk loosing that chip just because of 100 or 200MHz more. ofc, it`s running under the H2O...
     
  4. AMD4Life

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    But mine did more with less volts and I got a CPU-Z bench run out of it!

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    And another at 4.8GHz with the same Vcore as you:

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  5. Turanis

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    Your Xeon @ 4.5-4.8GHz is fine.Dont go too far,you know maybe in time this CPU will throttle on high voltage and will crack down.

    But you need faster RAM,16gb will be fine.Not matter if you have 32-64gb.
     
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    Theres a few benchies around the web basically showing a very minimum performance improvement of ram faster than 1866 with these Xeons, even when clocked at 4.8Ghz.

    I just ordered 32gig 1866, games are begining to max out my 9 gig and i have different sizes which is crap for overclocking.
     
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    Seems like Xeon X5675 4.7Ghz = i7 5930k 3.5Ghz
     
  8. AMD4Life

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    While this seems to be true according the CPU-Z bench, I'm sure the i7 5930k would easily pull ahead even with a minor overclock. Also real world performance is probably a totally different story, the i7 5930k would win hands down.
     
  9. Valken

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    CPU is more than fine. Just upgrade RAM if you need it and save the pennies for the next GPU if newer games feel sluggish. Most of the newer games are GPU bound, not CPU unless you are playing ARMA or Total War.
     
  10. jura11

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    Hi there

    Agree on this,there is minimum gain going with faster RAM on Xeon

    32GB should be enough for you and if you have still older RAM you still can put them to PC,have run mixed combination of the RAM on my setup without the issue,but this depends on the what you do,if you do lots of video conversion or video editing or photoshopping then I would add extra RAM,will worth it

    9GB has been OK few years back,but right now I think 16GB is not enough and 32GB is sweet spot there

    Hope this helps

    Thanks,Jura

    Hi there

    Depends on benches I would say this CPU-Z bench is OK,I would recommend have look on Corona Benchmark there,there you will see how yours CPU is good against the others

    If you don't render or even you don't use SW which using or does using AVX then yours performance should be OK,if SW is optimized for AVX then you will loose performance that's for sure,have look I've right now have temporary PC with i7-4790k and tried to do few tests and this PC seems is bit faster in Corona render in scenes which I've done in past and in V-RAY with Intel Embree my times are around 25-30% faster with i7 than with my old Xeon as I said all depends what you do

    Hope this helps

    Thanks,Jura
     

  11. lmimmfn

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    Thanks man, yeah, my 9Gig is struggling so went for 32Gig. Prob 16 is enough for games but in the future i do want to use the rig as a work PC( prob lower the OC ) and use it as a server. I do real time analytics so ram and CPU power is prime. I also dabble in 3D rendering. For me 32Gig wont be wasted :)
     
  12. AMD4Life

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    So for the hell of it I decided to combine my two 12GB memory kits (Corsair & G.Skill) since both are rated 1600MHz CAS9. I have found no stability or performance issues as a result and am now up to 24GB ram at 1720MHz 9-9-9-24 2T.
     
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    Doesn't the X58-UD5 - and all X58 boards for that matter -, support up to 24GB DDR3 maximum?

    I've the same board as you but, with the X58-Extreme BIOS (the board is completely watercooled), for my GTX 780 build and I had a X58A-UD7 that I gave to my younger brother, so he could build a GTX 970 gaming PC.

    According to the specs, both boards support up to 24GB...
     
  14. lmimmfn

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    Thats the board spec but was based off the initial consumer chips and max size dimms available at the time etc. The Xeons have a higher addressable range so can support 1TB ram. Loads of reports around the web of getting 24Gig+ working with Xeons on X58, pretty sure e.g. 920 can do 32Gig ram also.

    That said, i have 4 dimms, 32Gig, tried them, can see them in the Bios no probs but Windows 10 is forever stuck on booting. Tried with 24Gig and it works fine, not sure if its a faulty dimm or the weird setup required for Tripple channel with 4 dimms. Will investigate further some weekend but for the moment im on 24Gig.


    Did you try 1T? my old first set of dimms used to configure themselves as 1T, wouldnt work in 1T with 3x2Gig + 3x1Gig. I had to manually change the timings on this HyperX set to 1T. Running at 4.3Ghz for the moment with trubo to 4.5 or so, but my ram is running at 1580 or so so its underclocked so i changed timmings to 8-8-8-24, dont think 8-8-8-21 is stable havnt had enough time to test properly. The ram timmings make a big difference in CineBenchR15, but im still not up to the performance of my rig before changing the ram. Was getting ~960, now getting 935, need more time with it though.
     
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  15. jura11

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    Hi there

    As above you should be able run or use 32GB and more on yours board,if you want to be sure,I would get Xeon something like X5670 or even X5650 which run lot cooler than i7-920 and mainly with them OC is very easy and 4.0GHz+ is very easy with right cooling

    UD5 should be able address 32GB,I've run UD5 or UD3R on both I've run X5670 and on both I've run 32GB+ RAM,usually you need put bit more QPI voltage if you are running with all slots full

    Hope this helps

    Thanks,Jura

    Hi there

    Hi there

    Can you try put extra 2 RAM in those free two slots ?

    I've in past similar issue with X58-UD3R when I couldn't boot with 4 RAM installed,but when I put 2 RAM to free slots I could boot without the issue,this has happen like UD3R or P6T SE,you need to have all slots or you will need to run them in triple channel mode with 3 RAM installed

    With some RAM sets like Kingston Fury I've lower results in Cinebench too and I really didn't investigate this issue on my PC,what RAM are you running there ?

    Hope this helps

    Thanks,Jura
     

  16. lmimmfn

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    Yeah tbh i didnt spent any time investigating, i had a short time window to do the work and verify with my old OC that everything was stable so i just wanted it running asap. Ill try the other slots with 3x 1 or 2 Gig sticks just to make sure, will be over a weeks time before i can try.

    At least with the Gigabyte boards theres very specific configs for the ram, e.g. it wont work at all with 1 stick according to the documentation, 2 sticks needs to be in specific slots. 4 stick tripple channel needs to be in slots 1,2,3,5( The one in slot 2 being the one i removed ), but according to the docs, 4 and 5 sticks should work.

    Strange that you also got lower Cinebench scores, i dont understand it, even with tighter timings( 8-8-8-24 1T vs 9-9-9-24 2T ) compared to my old ram its still not matching the same score. Im using Kingston HyperX Savage dimms.

    Actually, just checked, my old Cinebench run was on Windows 7 so thats probably why but according to these benches it should be faster on Windows 10 - http://www.techspot.com/review/1042-windows-10-vs-windows-8-vs-windows-7/page2.html.
     
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    Didn't try all 24GB 1T yet. Went with the GSkill's 2T to try out so far.
     
  18. jura11

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    Hi there

    I would at least try that,on some X58 motherboards you need to have all slots full when you are running 8GB RAM,this does happen to me with few X58 motherboards
    I can only confirm this on UD3R or PT6 SE

    With Gigabyte I don't have best experience,but this can be my bloody luck,first board has failed after 9 months and second failed after 1 year

    My results in Cinebench always has been lower with Kingston Fury 1600MHz RAM,OC on them has been pain,with those RAM I couldn't run them beyond 1700MHz,on other hand with G.Skill 1333MHz I've been able to run them at 1700MHz without the problems

    I've run Cinebench only on W7 not on W10

    Hope this helps

    Thanks,Jura
     

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