x1800XT or x1900 All In Wonder

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  1. The Kyle

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    x1800XT or x1900gt or x1900 All In Wonder

    x1800XT or x1900gt or x1900 All In Wonder

    The benchmarks I've seen are unclear. Which is the obvious better choice in this situation?
     
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  2. What is your budget?
     
  3. Darkplayer

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    For the future its gotta be the x1900 all in wonder. The x1800xt slightly outperforms it currently, but down the road those 48 shader processors will come in handy. The 1900 GT is not bad, but it only has 12 pixel pipelines and 36 shader processors, if it was unlockable it would be the best choice. But otherwise its gotta be the x1900 all in wonder.

    P.S. I ordered one also. ;)
     
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    ^ I agree with him. But if you can find the x1800xt 512mb for that price, get it instead.
     

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    if I can recall the x1900
     
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    Well I'm returning my defective 7600GT that I got in the mail today. That leaves me with $165 and I don't want to spend more then $100 more. I'm just sick of dealing with eVGA and their issues lately...

    If you have a better suggestion, let me know. I just feel like trying out ATI this time around.
     
  7. So you made your choice huh? While I still think the X1900GT will be better (because of better OCing resluts) the X1900AIW should fit nicely in your system anyway. The X1900AIW only has 5 mosfets
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowI...6MB+GDDR3+PCI+Express+x16+Video+Card+-+Retail
    And will limit what it can do with OCing.....

    The X1900GT has 6 just like the X1900XT/X....
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowI...R3+PCI+Express+x16+(RoHS)+Video+Card+-+Retail
     
  8. The X1800XT will perform a bit better in some of todays games (due mainly to it's higher clocks) but the X1900GT performs a bit better than it in shader intensive titles like Oblivion......

    Anyway my vote is for the X1900GT and it's 36 shader processors, higher clocks (than the X1900AIW) and brighter future (vs the X1800XT)

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161016
     
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    Yeah but the x1900 has 48 shader processors that is considerably more than the x1900GT and it has a higher fillrate. And lets not forget that you get all the media functions for less than the price of the x1900GT.
     
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    Ok so I'm down to the x1900 AIW or the x1900GT. As newer games start to appear (Crysis, Unreal 2007), will the AIW's high shader processors start to give it an advatage over the the GT as well as other competition? Because if that is the case, I wouldn't mind taking a small hit for now.

    Off topic. So do you consider this switching over to the light from the dark side(nvidia)? :p.
     

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    Nah they are the dark side, lol.

    I used to have a 6600GT, I think you will like the switch.
     
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    I dunno why I didn't do this from the start. Almost 2x faster for about $50 more. Thanks for the help. I'm gonna go with the All In Wonder and hope that the extra shaders pay off down the road.
     
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    Yeah plus dont forget the multimedia features. Yeah I'm also hoping for more shader intensive games down the road, some games like Oblivion and Age of Empires show an impact allready.
     
  14. nunchucka

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    X1900AIW: 48 slow 500mhz pipes with 1ghz of 256meg of ram onboard

    or

    X1900GT: 36 average 575mhz pipes with 1.2ghz of 256meg of ram onboard

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    X1800XTPE: 16 fast 700mhz pipes with 1.6ghz 512meg of ram onboard


    i went with the 1800XT and it is a beast.
     
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    Buy none of those. Wait DX10 cards. I believe Crysis is the first game that takes advantage of DX10. Or wait at least until UT2k7 comes out.
     

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    Actually the x1900 AIW has 48 shader processors.
     
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    ah sorry i looked at a early review that said it had 36.
     
  18. Krizby

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    Newegg has the EVGA 7900GT reload version (supposedly fixed the issues with current 7900GTs) now if you still want to stick around with the green team :D

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130033

    Btw I read that the X1900GT runs way too hot for its own good (90 degree celcius under load).
     
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    http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61&Itemid=27

    ^^ X1900GT vs X1800XT 512MB

    Overall both are very close, Oblivion is split down the middle between outdoor scenes (favouring the X1800XT) and indoor scenes (favouring the X1900GT). The only clear victory for the X1900GT is in AoE3, leaving the X1800XT coming out just ahead overall, and notably, thanks to the huge memory bandwidth advantage of the X1800XT, Adaptive Antialiasing performance is better.
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    http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/ati/aiwx1900/index.php?p=17

    ^^ X1900 AIW vs X1900XTX vs X1800XT 512MB vs X1800XL

    Shows the the X1800XT again beating out the X1900 AIW once antialiasing is enabled, more then likely a combination of the extra memory bandwidth advantage coupled with 512MB of memory.

    Probably also worth bearing mind if you grab the 512MB version of the X1800XT, most can be converted to a X1800XT OC/PE with stock clocks in 3D mode of 700/1600 vs 625/1500 on the standard X1800XT. Im running my X1800XT 256MB version at a max res of 1280x1024 at OC/PE speeds of 700/1600 and it is mighty fast in any situation where it doesnt run out of local memory (which to be fair is in most cases, notable exceptions are COD2 with textures set to "extra" and FEAR with again, textures set to "maximum", both remedied by a bump down in texture settings or a drop to 2x AA rather then 4x).

    Overall they look pretty even, if you do fancy the extra AIW features, certainly go for the X1900 AIW. :)
     
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    Lol...not really an option dude. When my faulty 7600GT goes back today, I'm left with my GeForce 2 as a backup.
     

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