[WIP] ATX PSU Maximum Combined 12v Ratings

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  1. Makalu

    Makalu Ancient Guru

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    I've removed the Apex/Allied units until someone can prove that their ratings are anymore trustworthy than their parent company Deer.
     
  2. kwak

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    the sli/cf list is prolly going to take some more days, im trying to get hold of the numbers for the xclio psu's but it near impossible. ive tried their part numbers, those of cwt and both say nothing about combined +12v. im running out of ideas. you got any more suggestions on how to find it?
     
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    ack yeah I see their website has even less information than before and nothing seems to be changing there. I mailed them once and asked for the maximum combined rating for just one of the GreatPower units and never got an answer...I'm going to write them again...and perhaps Channel Well too. (but they've never been too forthcoming either)

    There's a possibility that they've put it in the manuals sent out with the units so maybe someone who has one can tell us if that's the case and we can glean the info that way.

    The combined 12v for the Straightpower's are listed on their website. The Greatpower's we may end up just using the same specs as their nearly identical Thermaltake Toughpower counterparts (with an asterisk) and the Goodpower's will just be NG I guess.
     
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    There's a distinct possibility that Xclio doesn't know because Channel Well won't tell them...the Straightpowers are made by Enhance.
     

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    ay, caramba...now even the link to contact them doesn't work at their site. They made these changes a few weeks ago...sure hope they don't think it's an improvement. There's a phone number there but I only speak enough Chinese to get slapped and thrown in jail. Snail mail addie but I uhhh went digital long ago...might be some old stamps in the junk drawer lol
     
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    I'm having a bad internet day on/off all day.
    Here is link for a 750 watt xclio test. hope this helps I will post more if my connection will let me GD it Grrrrr...


    http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=275
     
  7. Makalu

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    naw his homemade psu tester won't max out a 750w psu. I've never found an Xclio review done with a tester that measured all 4 12v rails and pushed the unit to it's limits.
     
  8. kwak

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    that article didnt have the info we were looking for, they didnt say what the +12v lines combined can do. thanks for the link anyway.

    makalu, i found something strange about the fsp FSP550-80GLC and FSP550-80GLC-R. they are quad rail, are advertised as 15a each, but have a current limiter of 48A on 12v1 and 2 together, and 22A on 4 and 3. it on page 8 on this pdf.
    im not lising it because those numbers are clearly not the max it can do, otherwise it would be advertised as a much more powerfull psu, but i wonder why they made the current limiters the way they are.
     
  9. kwak

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    btw, here is the list for sli approved units that arent on yet, and the current levicom models:

    Levicom x-alien VP500B 500W single rail 34A(old version, not available anymore)
    Levicom VisiblePower 450W single rail 30A(dual rail 30A for VisiblePower XP)
    Levicom Chrom Edition 430W single rail 20A
    Levicom M-Power 450W dual rail 30A
    Levicom PolarPower(all wattages) Unknown
    Levicom BlackPower Rev. III 480W single rail 28A
    Levicom BlackPower Rev. III 420W single rail 22A
    Levicom BlackPower Rev. III 350W single rail 14A

    8800gtx SLI certified psu's:
    Etasis ET850 quad rail 70A(number taken from JonnyGuru review of silverstone st85zf as those are supposed to be the same)
    Etasis ET750 quad rail 60A
    Tagan TurboJet tg1100-u96 six rails 80A(claimed, see http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/403/10)
    Topower/ePower TOP-1000W six rail 75A

    8800GTS sli and 7950gx2 quad sli certified
    HEC Group Sigma 650W unknown
    Fortron/FSP group BoosterX 3 single rail 25A
    Hiper TypeM 730W quad rail 56A
    Hiper TypeM 670W quad rail 52A
    Sparkle Action 700W(spi700gln) quad rail 50A
    Xclio Greatpower x14s4p4 650W unknown
    Xclio Greatpower x14s4p4 700W unknown
    Xclio Greatpower x14s4p4 750W unknown

    7900gtx or 7800gtx 512 sli certified
    Procase/Wamtek PW10750A-812 750W quad rail 66A
    Procase/Wamtek PW10750A-88 750W quad rail 66A
    Sparkle Action 600W(spi600gln) unknown
    Sparkle power fsp600-80GLC unknown

    all other sli certified:
    Acbel 5PC04 550W(LCD power supply 550W) triple rail 35A
    acbel api5pc03 sli 500W triple rail 34A
    Amacrox AC550-GLN 550W quad rail 44A
    Amacrox AC650-GLN 650W quad rail 52.5A
    Apex sl-8550EPS 550W unknown
    Apex sl-8600EPS 600W dual rail 40A
    Dynapower PS-600T472 600W dual rail 38A
    Epower EP-550P5-T1 550W dual rail 35A
    FSP Group EPSILON FX-600GLN quad rail 48A
    FSP Group EPSILON FX-700GLN quad rail 56A
    HEC Zephyr650 650W unknown
    High Power HPC-560-A12S EPS 560W triple rail 36A
    High Power HPC-560-A88S EPS 560W triple rail 36A
    Kingwin ABT-600MA1S dual rail 32A
    NZXT Precise Power 650W dual rail 44A
    NZXT Precise Power 550W dual rail 35A
    Procase PW1075A-812 750W quad rail 66A
    Procase PW10750A-88 quad rail 66A
    Superflower 800W unknown
    Topower TOP-600W SG 600W dual rail 32A

    i'll be starting on the cf list later on.
     
  10. Makalu

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    hmm well first off the over-current limiters on the FSP unit are listed a bit differently on the product page then they are in the manual. There it reads like this:

    Over-current protection: +5V:48A, +3.3V: 60A, +12V1:22A, +12V2:22A, +12V3:22A, +12V4:22A

    As far as the label is concerned they aren't under any obligation to list the actual current limits there. The distribution between rails is totally arbitrary but is generally equally divided. Rather than list all four of them at 15a they could have listed two of them at 22a and the other two at 8a and they'd be saying the same thing. It's hard for me to say if 12v1 and 12v2 have a current limit of 22a each or 24a each or 48a combined or just what is going on there but if I had one I'd hope to never find out ;) That unit's already on the list anyway.

    Thanks so much for all your work there. I'll be adding them up top when i get a few other pans out of the fire here... I'm not listing any so-called number of rails because it's impossible to know without opening one up and tracing the PCB. Also, I'm just keeping my eye on the Tagan thing for more developments. The unit that hardwaresecrets tore apart and 3dplanet tested aren't the tg1100-u96 that was SLI certified...those were the tg1100-u95 and if you download the specsheet for that uhhh well you don't get it...it's the specsheet for the u96 that they've linked to. There's something maybe not right with both units (take a look closely at the label and see if you can spot the bad math) but also it may be that the specsheet has info about minimum 3.3v and 5v load levels required to get the full 12v amperage like some units do (3dplanet only loaded the 12v alone) so I'm just gonna watch and wait on that for now I guess. Thanks again :)
     

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    OK I've added those and a couple others the Enermax Noisetaker II EG425P-VE 29amps and another Nvidia certified unit the Acbel LCD Power API5PC04 SLI 35amps. I wasn't going to list any Apex units but hmmm Nvidia does put these through a rigorous test and the specs seem in line so I've put them up. I pretty much feel the same way about Dynapower but we'll post that one SLI certified unit for now. The FSP Booster isn't an ATX power supply but I reckon people would like to know what the 12v specs are so that's up too.
     
  12. Makalu

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    Bigpipe has been busy and I've just added these units that he's sent me :)

    Q-technology QT-02350G 18amps
    Q-technology QT-02300 18amps
    Q-technology QT-02350A 18amps
    Q-technology Gold Qt-03350G 25amps
    Q-technology Gold Qt-03400G 29amps
    Q-technology Gold QT-03460G 29amps
    Q-technology Dustproof QT-08560G 36amps
    Q-technology Papst QT-03460G 29amps
    Q-technology Papst Qt-03400G 25amps
    Q-technology Papst Qt-03460G 29amps
    Q-technology Papst QT-08560G 36amps
    Q-technology Semi-Fanless Qt-07400F NG

    HEC/Compucase HEC-350AR-PTF 18amps
    HEC/Compucase HEC-400AR-PTF 18amps
    HEC/Compucase HEC-350TD-PTX 25amps
    HEC/Compucase HEC-385WA-PTS 18amps
    HEC/Compucase HEC-400WA-PTZ 29amps
    HEC/Compucase HEC-420TW-ATX 31amps
    HEC/Compucase HEC-420TD-PTX 31amps
    HEC/Compucase HEC-450LR-AT 17amps
    HEC/Compucase HEC-460DRAX 29amps
    HEC/Compucase HEC-480TD-PTX 32amps
    HEC/Compucase HEC-480TW-ATX 3amps
    HEC/Compucase HEC-550AB-ATF 35amps

    SilenX Luxurae LX-3400 16amps
    SilenX Luxurae LX-4000 18amps
    SilenX Luxurae Lx-4600 20amps
    SilenX iXtrema Pro IX-3514PB 16amps
    SilenX iXtrema Pro IX-4014PB 16amps
    SilenX iXtrema Pro IX-4514PB 18amps
    SilenX iXtrema Pro IX-5214AB 28amps
    SilenX iXtrema Pro IX-6014AB 36amps
    SilenX iXtrema Plus IX-3514A 16amps
    SilenX iXtrema Plus IX-3514P 16amps
    SilenX iXtrema Plus IX-4014A 16amps
    SilenX iXtrema Plus IX-4014P 18amps
    SilenX iXtrema Plus IX-4514A 18amps
    SilenX iXtrema Plus IX-5214A 28amps
    SilenX iXtrema Plus IX-6014A 36amps
     
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    Makalu I'm glad you are adding the model name to these units, it does look better that way. Sorry I didn't do it too but I will do it in the future.
     
  14. Makalu

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    Bigpipe, well I just do that to maybe help someone figure out what unit is what. I probably should include the total watts figure too since that's the most common way for retailers to describe units but most of the units have the wattage in the part number so I didn't. I'll probably add the wattage to some of the brands later (like Thermaltake) to help people sort out what's what.
     
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    sweet!
    my psu is on that list :supercool:
     

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    Kwak already had that one you stupid dork! lol think I had like 20 webpages open and 3 or 4 documents at the time and was getting confuzzled. Anyway, there's lot's more units in the works here and there so "watch this space" :ying:
     
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    it seems like there are only 3 psu's on the crossfire list that we haven't done already:
    delta GPS-550AB A 550W 30A
    ePower Xscale-750 50A
    Topower Top-850 SG 50A

    im going to work on sintek psu's now, it looks like we havent got any of them yet, and i just found their website.

    edit:
    that went quick, they only have 7 psu's on the site, with all the info we need easy to find. i wish all manufacturers did it that way:

    400 DLS 15A
    450 DLS 22A
    500 DLS 22A(according to the site, but i guess they put up the wrong table, its exacly the same as the 450)
    500 XPS 34A
    600 XPS 34A
    650 XFIRE 44A
    700 XFIRE 52A
     
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  18. Makalu

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    yeah the ones that don't make you jump through a bunch of hoops to find...or worse, not find...sure do go lots faster. I'll go ahead and copy these to the list...and the few that I've managed to take the time for recently. Feel free to work on any of the other brands listed there with no units if you want. And lessee here's a few more brands that nobody is working on at the moment:
    Achme
    Andyson
    ATNG
    Bestec
    Boser
    Broadway/Okia (probably should be on the questionable rating "list" along with Powmax etc.????)
    Casing Macron
    Codegen
    Atrix/Colors IT
    Delta
    Enlight
    Fore Point/Fortrex

    hey and since you were working on the Nvidia and ATI certified lists I just took a peek at these Intel and AMD sites and there's yet more brands there that I never heard of and haven't been posted here so feel free to look into any of those brands or units if you take a notion.

    http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/35815.htm
    http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/DevelopWithAMD/0,,30_2252_869_4348^4376,00.html
     
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    Mine isn't yet so I'll add it here:

    Enermax Noisetaker EG495P-VE SFMA 32amps

    This model is not to be confused with the Noisetaker EG495AX-VE(W), already listed. The total 12v amperage figure (32A) as well as figures for each individual rail (in this case 18A x 2) is printed both on the packaging and on the side sticker.
     
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    Thank you very much Karl...Enermax is one of the difficult ones to find...adding it now :smile:
     

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