Discussion in 'Operating Systems' started by cockneysean, Oct 30, 2008.
Will post SS of me editing the site as soon as the images upload to imageshack.
Update...aww, someone went back behind me and removed my tag...lol
Daniel_k's audigy drivers seemed to work for me also. I lost audio during CODWaW for a while. I think that could have possibly been due to the dodgy WD 500GB HDD I installed Win 7 on. The drive is failing to read files properly at times as it overheats or the heads or drive mechanism are sticking. I think the drive is out of warranty unfortunately, though I might look for some updated firmware.
As far as i can tell Vista is just using zip for file backup and vhd for Complete PC Backup. So either the zip is bad or you might try using another archiver to make sure it's not some issue with the archive and the unzipping software (sometimes there are incompatibilities).
A Guide to Windows Vista Backup Technologies
Gizmo Drive Mounts ISO, BIN, and VHD Disk Images
Windows 2000, XP, Vista and Win7 kernel is build upon the NT kernel. However saying Vista/Win7 is running the same kernel as NT just because they are based on the NT kernel is taking it too far. There have been made many changes and enhancements a long the way and the old NT kernel is not the same, yes it's the foundation, yes the kernel is still called NT, but no it is not the same old thing.
MinWin is not the kernel as already pointed out, it is a self contained environment you can actually boot and test things off which is the main point of it's use (internal testing). You can't boot the kernel, you can boot MinWin.
Mark Russinovich: Inside Windows 7 (28-29 min in he talks about MinWin)
Mark Russinovich: On Working at Microsoft, Windows Server 2008 Kernel, MinWin vs ServerCore, HyperV,
Eric Traut talks Windows 7 and MinWin (old October 22, 2007 but you can see MinWin boot)
Hey Animatrix - have you heard or read anything about install failures with Win7?
I was getting the "windows has a problem communicating with a device" error, or else a normal i/o error on install. When I get the communication error I think it's an optical read/cache error (but not a problem with the cd drive itself) because win7 stops writing to the install par****on and my optical drive is no longer read. My system just stops until I eject the disc. I've tried both the nvidia & legacy cd drivers with the same problem.
When I start the install it always seems to stop about a third of the way through.
I've tried both 32 & 64, On a par****oned disk and also an unpar****oned disk. Also I've tried to do an unattended install but then it gets stuck at 30% every time with a file copy error.
Asking you as you seem to know more on the OS side of things than I do....
Did you try mounting the ISO using a virtual drive and doing the install that way ? If you think it's related to the ROM drive it might help. Though then the ISO needs to be the same bit version as the OS you start the install from (actually i am not sure if you can start a x86 install from a x64 OS, or if it's just that you can't start a x64 install from a x86 OS...lol i am just not sure now).
You might want to check the ISO on a VM just to see if you can install it then, just to rule out any issue with the media/ISO.
What about BIOS settings, such as for the controller, did you try messing with them. Some say they need to use AHCI others might need to revert back to the normal operations mode (likely IDE).
What type is your ROM drive, SATA or PATA ?
Yep tried installing it using a mounted iso, also switched the sata mode from auto (lba) to large with no joy.
My rom drive is pata and i've tried 2 different drives. I've been using the nvidia sata controller for my hdd but I might try the SiS controller, doubt it will work but I'll give it a try. Do you know if nF4 boards actually support Win7? I know that it was very difficult to install Vista on an nF2 board as thet weren't supported - this seems to be a very similar problem. I'm pretty sure my board supports AHCI from what I've read...You can't start an x64 os from a 32 bit os - it has to be a fresh install because of the kernel...
I'll give vmware a shot...
I'll cry if it turns out to be corrupt iso, I've already d/loaded both win7 versions - around 6 gig so far...
Then it must be something else then.
I think so look here, though he does have some issue with the chipset driver but has it installed never the less. Even people with Nforce2 apparently has it installed, though it has some issue with the NIC.
You might try their forum
Well that's something I didn't know - 95/98 are 16bit... Never really thought about it before....
Cheers I'll check it out.
I am having much smoother experience with the 181.22 WHQL drivers. I haven't played many games though since my raptor died last week. I did install GTA IV since it has a new patch but it is more or less the same in performance but with better shadows. Also is there anyone else who uses standby when they aren't using their pc? I use it and windows 7 acts funny when I wake it back up. Like the latest was I had to restart because it wasn't playing sound in some flash videos or any of my music?
a couple questions. I installed Windows 7 on a different hard drive. Can I do the dual boot thing like I would with vista? Also I have XP on another drive. Also what video drivers should i use right now I am using the WDDM 1.1 drivers? And for some reason I haven't installed any nvidia chipset drivers yet the computer is working perfectly fine. Should I still install the Nvidia 15.23 chipset drivers?
Yes...... Always install your boards chipset drivers.... Just remember, no matter how good windows 7 is working, its still Beta and issues can and most likely will always show up..... Dont use it or change it to your main OS as i see many others doing here.
Ok its not going to screw with my XP drive is it? If when I want to use I just go into the bios and switch the boot order right?
The install of your chipset drivers will only effect the OS (drive environment your in)... And yes you can set boot, or as i do just wait for the post screen to ask you which OS to load.
Yeah I can just going to toy around with it, not really use it as my main os. But it is pretty good in my opinion way better than Vista.
to those with x58 chipset.
having any issues installing drivers for them seems to take ages for me....
also windows 7 seems to be laggy so till i figure out how to fix it i wont be testing windows 7.
Also how do you stop XP from deleting settings in Windows 7 everytime you use XP?
Surprise surprise surprise..... For those that have read my posts on steam games crashing in 7. And the fact that i couldnt not uninstal or reinstal any ATI drivers. For the hell of it, i just tried 9.1's and damn they installed so that was amazing on that end. Better yet, they completely stopped the crashing in steam games also.
i just played an entire 1 hour plus round of L4d, where as before it would hard crash each and every time in about the 5-10 minute range.... No skipping, stuttering, nothing, works like a charm.
Damn im really glad this happened, as I can enjoy 7 now. Now if they can only get the Realtek audio working instead of just native id be all set.
As i mentioned before in the 9.1 thread, it seemed under vista to me crossfire worled better, smoother..i even scored higher in vantage. Based on that, i tried them in 7. This now proves IMO that they concentrated more on crossfirex setups than anything else. Its about time!!! Good job ATI...
I have a dual boot of win 7 and xp.
If you want it to boot up then loads the windows boot manger that gives you a cohce between win 7 or XP have the xp drive as the primary boot device. If you want to go in to Win 7 every time then have win 7 as the primary.