Windows 10 Thread

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  1. tsunami231

    tsunami231 Ancient Guru

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    My SSD space keep going down, And i notice it cause Diskcleanup NO longer delete Downloaded updates from the softwaredistribution folder like it does in win7.

    Or is there set time that must pass before the cleaner will delete those files?
     
  2. jonerkinsella

    jonerkinsella Ancient Guru

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    I have 7. I love 7 . I have free 10 upgrade. Can I install 10 on a new hd and dual boot without removing or destroying 7 and keep the two systems ?.

    or...

    Will I have to buy 10 and set it up on a separate hd to dual boot ?

    I only want 10 for dx12 games in the future.

    Thanks.
     
  3. AsiJu

    AsiJu Ancient Guru

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    Your Win 7 license will be upgraded to a Win 10 license so you can't have both I think.
    Though dual boot may work briefly until your old license is permanently consumed by Win 10, guessing by end of June 2016 at the latest when the free upgrade offer ends.

    If you want to try it out, you need to upgrade your current installation to Win 10 and then clean install Win 7 separetely.

    Or just wait until some DX12 games are out, there's none yet.
     
  4. Extraordinary

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    I was reading on MDL, that apparently the whole "previous license is consumed in the upgrade" was mis-information spread by a MS rep from that useless microsoft answers forum, and is untrue

    I had 10 installed for way longer than 30 days, and my 8.1 license still activated fine when I reinstalled 8.1 - but on the other hand, this is a TechNet 8.1 key, and they have a multiple machine / activation license

    With TH2, you can use your 7/8.x key for installation and activation without upgrading now too, so dual booting could be tested that way without losing the 7 install
     

  5. AsiJu

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    ^ oh yeah that's right, forgot about the fact TH2 changed the activation process.

    In other words jonerkinsella you could download the Media Creation Tool (link on the first page of this thread) and create an installation media for Win 10 with it.

    Then use the media for clean installing Win 10 while keeping your current Win 7 installation.

    As for the license consumption, I'm assuming the upgrade to Win 10 becomes permanent at some point.
    Meaning you can't have a dual boot system without buying another key but that you can re-install your old OS if you like.
     
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  6. Extraordinary

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    Yup, exactly :)
     
  7. jonerkinsella

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    Hmm. Maybe I should just buy a 10 key then when I need it and stick with 7 for now.

    or...

    Buy a 7 key nice and cheap and upgrade my 7 ,that might actually be a better idea.

    Thanks for the advice lads.

    pps.

    I can get a Win7 Ultimate key for €20 . I have a new 480gb ssd on the way. Do you guys think that his setup will be ok,

    Win 7 on my 128gb ssd ,
    Win 10 on my 256ssd ,

    Both operating systems sharing access to my 480gb ssd wich will house my games folders ?

    I also have a 1tb hdd that I use for storing movies etc.
     
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  8. AsiJu

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    Yea why not, seems legit to me.

    The Win 7 key for 20 € is a no-brainer really, go for it! Then you could keep your current install as is and install new Win 7 Ultimate to create a dual boot system.
    Then upgrade the Ultimate to W10. I'd assume that'd be the most convenient way plus upgrading a clean install is essentially clean installing W10. Well, almost ;)

    Plus W7 Ultimate upgrades to W10 Pro so you'd get the better Pro version of W10 too, which includes Group Policy Editor etc.
     
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  9. jonerkinsella

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    Do you think there might be an issue by having the same hardware registered to two completely different os's ?.

    Thanks.
     
  10. mtrai

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    Hey hey, just wanted to post a new finding this concerns the at least the ASUS Z170 motherboards. I just recently upgraded to a skylake and Z170 etc, anyhow, my steelseries Apex keyboard which worked fine until the upgrades.

    This may or may not be a win 10 issue, but can't be sure as I am not about to install win 8 just to find out.

    Here is the issue my Apex has a built in USB hub, which runs through the the keyboards USB cable. I thought it was everything but this as I do not use the keyboard usb hub at all, it just always auto installs.

    Anyhow, when gaming, sometimes would happen almost instantly to taking a few minutes, but the keyboard lights would just start flashing and the keyboard would not lock up. I would have to unplug and re plug it in, needless to say you cannot game this way.

    I thought it was my Win 10 install, to my new overclocking the new system. Did a whole bunch of things over the last week.

    Well it turns out the built in USB hub does not play nice with the Z170 motherboard and/or Windows 10.

    Both my gaming keyboards exhibited this behavior. I dug out an old plane jane usb keyboard I really could not type on anymore, just not used to and it worked perfect.
    Today I made the connection while shopping for a new keyboard, my partner was ready to go out buy me one so I could game. I assumed it was a steelseries issue.

    I am pretty sure it is not really a Windows 10 issue unless it is a driver issue, as my keyboards worked fine prior to the z170 upgrade

    Anyhow just a FYI.

    PS the moral of the story is I am too clever for my own good, as I was about to pick up a logitech 910 orion mechanical keyboard until I figured it out. :bang::bang::bang:
     
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  11. AsiJu

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    There shouldn't be any problems AFAIK. You're using two separate keys (licenses) anyway if you get the Win 7 Ultimate so they shouldn't "care" about each other.

    Trying to dual boot Win 7 and Win 10 with the same license (and hardware) could be troublesome.

    BTW if you're feeling adventurous, you could try upgrading your current Windows to Windows 10 first and try it out.
    The upgrade retains all your programs, files and settings up to the pinned taskbar shortcuts.

    You can then revert (within 30 days) back to your old OS and everything should be back to pre-upgrade state.
    30 days meaning that's how long W10 stores the old installation information for reverting. Ofc you can go back to W7 even after that but then you need re-install W7.
     
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  12. jonerkinsella

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    I've tried 10 on my laptop and didn't think much of it. I know that you can get the Win7 interface for 10, but I'd rather keep two separate systems. I might just setup a new Win7 on my 240gb ssd (that I currently use for games ) and upgrade that to 10 and keep my current Win7 and everything intact. I will then use my new 480gb ssd for the games folders.

    Win 10 should detect my current 7 install and set up the system for dual booting on setup..shouldn't it ?
     
  13. Extraordinary

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    If you install a dualboot 7 (2 x Win 7), and the dualboot is working fine when you upgrade one of them to 10, then yes, it should keep the dualboot and give you 7 & 10
     
  14. jonerkinsella

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    Thanks again lads :)
     
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    Windows just updated and C:\ has appeared back in the sidebar :)
     

  16. AsiJu

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    Really? Off to check...

    edit: nothing apart from Windows Defender def update found, maybe later.

    Which build are you on? Mine is 10586.29.
     
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    Nothing for me since patch tuesday. Maybe it will come later.
     
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  19. Labyrinth

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    Same build.

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