Windows 10 release preview 17133 (release preview) issue with DDU

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon Drivers Section' started by Joaoo, Apr 7, 2018.

  1. Joaoo

    Joaoo Active Member

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    Hi all,

    I emailed DDU creator with the same explanation below. Just a quick heads up on the upcoming 17133 which will reach RTM very soon.

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    The new release preview which will go RTM in the next few days installs AMD drivers automatically. If I use your tool to ensure it does not update the drivers automatically; it still does.

    It is downgrading the latest AMD drivers to 27/10/2017 version (17.7)

    Once I use DDU to clean > make sure the windows update driver thing is blocked > it still rolls back.
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    Update:
    Using the REG file at: https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials...iver-automatic-installation-windows-10-a.html seems to have fixed the issue.

    Anyone else on Release Preview which has the same issue without using the REG file?

    Cheers,
     
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2018
  2. mtrai

    mtrai Maha Guru

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    This is not a DDU issue, but actually a Windows 10 issue. Truly. Microsoft actually has made "troubleshooter tool" to fix these driver issues but does not advertise it. Can be found here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...t-a-driver-update-from-reinstalling-in-window

    It is called wushowhide or wushowhide.diagcab download.

    Please keep this troubleshooter in your in ongoing toolbox. It is pretty permanent until a major upgrade, clean install or a windows reset. It will work for pretty much any driver actually.
     
  3. tensai28

    tensai28 Ancient Guru

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    Maybe try disconnecting your internet? That's what I do and it doesn't install drivers but then again, I'm on Nvidia so that might also be why. I'm on 17133.1 by the way.
     
  4. HK-1

    HK-1 Master Guru

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    @ joaoo Hi very strange because I never had or see issues when I need use DDU always works like a charm ;)
     

  5. AlleyViper

    AlleyViper Master Guru

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    The fix DDU applies on first run is:
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    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DriverSearching]
    "SearchOrderConfig"=dword:00000000
    The same as setting the policy:
    Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\System\Device Installation\Specify search order for device driver source locations\Enabled|Do not search Windows Update

    That one fix you've linked shouldn't prevent drivers to be updated. Some moons ago, in that part of the Devices and Printers GUI there was also the options to set if system would search for drivers via WU, but it was removed, hence the need for the above registry fix/policy. Also, this thing is only applied for when you have a missing driver in Device Manager, and it triggers a search for drivers in the background after you boot windows.
    You'll still need to hide the offending driver via wushowhide or WUMT if you don't wan't it to be download when manually running windows update or it's automatic schedule.
     
  6. WarDocsRevenge

    WarDocsRevenge Guest

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    im on the RTM build and not a single issue it seems more of your issue not windows
     
  7. KyleStilkey

    KyleStilkey Master Guru

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    Thanks for this, been reporting this issue, my problem is for some reason Microsoft keeps installing those drivers with each Insider released, but I have a 580 and it keep installing the 480 drivers and causes issues. Will give this a run next time I'm at my computer. Thanks!
     
  8. Alessio1989

    Alessio1989 Ancient Guru

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    Insider releases have different (driver) Windows Update policies compared to non-insider.
     
  9. Joaoo

    Joaoo Active Member

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    Seems to be indeed an insider issue only. I just got the new possible RTM in Insider Preview and it downgraded by drivers again after installing the latest ones.
    I managed to fix it again by running below reg change and DDU + new drivers after.

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsUpdate\UX\Settings]
    "ExcludeWUDriversInQualityUpdate"=dword:00000001

    @Wagnard , perhaps an idea to add this key to ensure Insiders don't have this issue?
     
  10. AlleyViper

    AlleyViper Master Guru

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    The fix I've pointed above (that DDU also does) must be always re-applied after a W10 upgrade, so it's normal that it reverted drivers again if you didn't enforce it by running DDU, direct reg, or applying the corresponding policy on first boot via gpupdate /force.
    Curiously that tweak on your last post has been present in windows since 1703 IIRC via policy (or direct reg as above), but it was never completely functional, because some drivers override it and always appear via WU.
     

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