Windows 10 May 2019 Update Causing Issues For Some AMD Ryzen PCs, Fix In This item

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    sverek Ancient Guru

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    I wonder if quality of Win10 will improve once they cut Win7 off in 2020.
     
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    Sigh. Microsoft should really look into increasing the volume its Insider users. Give them incentives like Windows Store credits or anything. Get more beta testers into the process. Have more inhouse server builds in the program as well. For such a bug to exist in the release update is disappointing.
     
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    No, they use consumers for testing unstable updates, theres a policy that stops them using you as a lab rat but gpedit.msc is not included in consumer OS's.

    Create DWORD: AllowTelemetry
    in HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\DataCollection
    value = 0

    That will also stop unstable updates being installed.

    But 0 only works in Windows 10 Enterprise, Education, IoT and Server editions, 1 is the minimum for consumers out of the 0-3 range.
     
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  5. nevcairiel

    nevcairiel Master Guru

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    Out of date drivers causing issues, this has been happening for every OS ever since the start of time.
     
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    asturur Maha Guru

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    What bothers me is that the changelog is always missing.
    Most users could benefit reading a changelog and understading they cannot upgrade, for how much technical this can be.

    If you tell me that windows 10 1903 has a new light theme, improved security and somehow a better browser, and you stop there describing the changes, i cannot guess you broke the driver interface somehow.
     
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    They could simply provide the driver in the OS installation/upgrade process....
    No, thanks to agile programming.
     
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    Microsoft will release a good version of Windows 10 one of these days.

    *stares off into the distance*

    one of these days.
     
  9. NiColaoS

    NiColaoS Master Guru

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    Have you noticed every time an update causes issues on CPU, that CPU is AMD?

    About the updates, my idea would be, 6 months feature updates and 6 quality only updates on the update they released at the beginning. Not 2 feature upgrades per year. That would be ideal.
     
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    Not CPUs this time but chipsets.
     

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    QA? What QA? :)
     
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    Every time there's a big update to Win10, I cross my fingers, pray even though I don't know and back up my personal files.
     
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    Good old M$, always keeping things exciting.
     
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    the changelog is better than before that almost none
    if u google up those KB number, you should find something like this : https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/4499183
    they do list what changes/fixes, although its better if they pop-up the change-log before update

    but for issues/bugs i dont think they know before hands either
    the patch should work in their test-lab without causing any issue, but various pc with various setting, it just bound to happen
     
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    No, the issue is that MS does not do extensive environment replication. Anyone that is in software knows all about this.

    Its a pain to replicate a huge number of environments but a company as huge as MS has no excuse.

    One possible solution would be for MS to post a warning if you try to do a feature of CU with untested drivers. Just about everyone would get the warning so they likely wont do this.
     
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    basically u only need to backup C:\Users
    except u saving files to non-default folder, all personal files should saved in there
     
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    Well, as long as they have WHQL certification, it is probably assumed that Microsoft has actually tested them...
     
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    Not as bad when 1809 launched as far as issues go. Keep trying MS you will finally able to see that 1+1=2 which means at some point they need to release a stable version of Windows 10 out of the box. They should change on how they do things with major updates instead of them releasing updates how they do them now they should do them once or twice a year so they have more time to work out the kinks and bugs so crap like 1809 never happens again.
     
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    Tested at the time of certification? Yes.

    Tested with all future combinations of OS builds and updates? Clearly this does not happen.

    They have the resources to create a pool of virtualized systems with all known certified drivers for impact testing. They just don't do this.
     
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    Not really. Although I can't speak to old (early 90s and prior) OSes other than DOS, this has largely only been a Windows issue. Apple deliberately breaks driver compatibility, typically only whenever they do a major change with CPUs (like going from PPC to Intel, or requiring SSE 4.x support).
    Aside from the one time Linux ditched HAL a decade ago, pretty much all drivers made for it within the past 15 or so years still work, or can be made to work with a little tweaking (some of the closed-source drivers can be tricky to get going).

    However, I don't always think it's such a bad thing Windows driver compatibility breaks so quickly. It helps promote the drivers remain up-to-date. The biggest problem is a lot of the hardware manufacturers just simply don't bother updating anything, so if you don't have the right OS, your device might not be functional.
     

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