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Will I regret getting a 8700k now ?

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards Intel' started by YetYhunter, Apr 16, 2018.

  1. YetYhunter

    YetYhunter Maha Guru

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    With RIZEN 2 on the way, is the 8700k still a good choice? I had one before sold it and now i'm building again.

    I will be playing at 1080p. I already have a 240hz G-sync monitor. What CPU do you think I should get paired with a Gtx1080 ?
    Amd version : 330 for the CPU+300 for The x470 motherboard that's 630 euros with cooler included.

    Intel version: also 330 +330 for the motherboard and another 70 for the aftermarket cpu cooler, 730 in total.

    Will the Intel CPU provide better minimum frame rates required for this monitor ? And is it worth that 100 euros premium price ?

    Early leaks suggest a score of about 174 single thread score for AMD and intel scores about 200 at stock.

    Note: my last AMD build was back in 2003 with sime Athlon chip, I'm no longer familiar with the AMD side.

    What is your take on this? Please help me make a decision.
     
  2. nhlkoho

    nhlkoho Ancient Guru

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    Yes the 8700k is still a good choice
     
  3. metagamer

    metagamer Master Guru

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    it's a great cpu and will perform better if you're on 1080p pushing high frame rates.
     
  4. Marco Borsato

    Marco Borsato Member Guru

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    I agree with the others, personally got the 8700k for 1440p 144hz gaming and I'm far from disappointed.
     

  5. -Tj-

    -Tj- Ancient Guru

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    I wouldn't.


    Wait some more for that 8core Icelake, soon to be released. Q3 2018.
     
  6. YetYhunter

    YetYhunter Maha Guru

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    Problem is I have no PC at the moment. I want to buy this week. The 2700x looks like a solid alternative but seems to be slower in games than the 8700k according to this http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/cp...x-print-review-is-online-incl-benchmarks.html.
    This is what I have in my cart now with two more incertitudes:

    8700k
    Asus Strix-E OR Hero X WiFi (+100 Euros)
    Trident RGB 3000 mhz CAS15 16GB
    EVGA GTX1080 ACX 3.0
    Dark Rock 4 OR Corsair H110i
    Focus + 550W platinum
    Crucial MX500 + 2 TB SSHD 7200RPM
    3 additional 140mm fans + RGB led frame.

    What do you think ?
     
  7. nhlkoho

    nhlkoho Ancient Guru

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    Just buy it. The 8700k will last you many years.
    I would get a stronger PSU though. 550W is cutting it kind of close.
     
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  8. YetYhunter

    YetYhunter Maha Guru

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    I'll order this afternoon. For 5 GHZ the strix-E and the dark rock 4 should be enough or it's worth getting the alternatives?
     
  9. nhlkoho

    nhlkoho Ancient Guru

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    That's up to you. Personally I like to have some extra headroom in the PSU and it's definitely not something to go cheap on. EVGA's product page states 500W minimum so as long as you get a quality unit you should be ok. Reviews of that one seem good though.
     
  10. anticupidon

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    Agreed on the PSU advice. I follow the same advice since the beginning and no problems at all.
     

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    Mufflore Ancient Guru

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  12. GREGIX

    GREGIX Master Guru

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    Setup 8700k at 4.7 and vega 64 stock eats from socket 400-480W
    With screen, forgot to add
     
  13. YetYhunter

    YetYhunter Maha Guru

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    And that Vega 64 is waaay more power hungry than the GTX1080.
    The GPU will never go over 230W and the CPU will never exceed 200W. These are absolute max values that will never be achived in the same time or even individually totaling 430W.

    Now, the PSU has 45A on the +12 Rail and I consider a 85% efficiency(platinum rated). 45*12*0.85=460W.
    Real world power consumption should not exceed 400W.
    I think it should be enough, I see no point in getting a larger PSU.
     
  14. Koniakki

    Koniakki Ancient Guru

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    I would say the 8700K too but maybe wait a couple days for 2700X reviews to go live and have a more conclusive picture after reading/checking 5-10 reviews.

    Since no games where mentioned, the Guru3D average FPS of all 13 games tested for the GTX 1080 at stock is 125FPS. Of course this is at HIGH/VHIGH/ULTRA usually. Obviously on these settings the minimums would be (way)lower.

    To clarify again, not saying go for the 2700X but better not ruled it out just in case any surprises come up. Especially in the minimums. It may or many not provide better minimums(either 1% or 0.1%) or possibly both cpus might even be close/same when paired with a GTX 1080. And if they're, why not get 8C/16T instead of 6C/12T.

    If OP is going to lower quality settings to achieve higher refresh rates, which I find illogical anyway besides in online/lan multiplayer/competitive gaming, then the 8700k would be a better choice I would say.


    P.S: Unless money isn't an issue or at least for this build, why spend on a motherboard more or as much as the cpu? I paid €180 at launch for my Extreme4 and it run my non-delid 8700K at 5.1/5.2GHz with 4000+MHz ram no problem. Again, not implying to get an Extreme 4, I would prefer a K6/Taichi/GB gaming 7/Hero/Apex etc my self, but you get the point.

    P.S2: Have to agree with other on the psu subject. Although the Seasonic Focus PLUS 550W looks good, they are plenty of just as good GOLD 650-750W psu similarly priced.

    Seasonic, Corsair, Antec and even Thermaltake offer 650-750W GOLD rated psu with the same 10-year warranty.

    And in case the GOLD vs Platinum argument comes up, a 10W(ten watt) difference while gaming(450w vs 460w) will cost ~€1,55( one euro and fifty five cents) per year more assuming 5hours per day gaming, 5 days a week@0,13c/KW.
     
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  15. YetYhunter

    YetYhunter Maha Guru

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    Thank you for your elaborate argumentation. Exactly how I was seeing the problem, I couldn't find the words to put on paper. The bottleneck with the intel CPU will certainly be the GTX1080.
    This is what I ordered, should be here until Saturday.
    8700k
    Asus Strix-E
    Trident RGB 3000 mhz CAS16 16GB
    ASUS GTX1080 A8G
    Dark Rock 4
    Focus + 550W platinum
    Samsung 860EVO + 2 TB SSHD 7200RPM
    Meshify C with 3 additional 140mm fans and 2 RGB led frames
     

  16. darrensimmons

    darrensimmons Maha Guru

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    If you go for the 8700k and mobo set up make sure you get some fast ddr4. A friend of mine skimped on the ram where as I have just purchased 3200mhz and the difference is night and day up to my old 2133mhz ram. Running my chip at 4.9 and never seen temps go over 50C in gaming. The chip I have was pre binned though so that helps.
     

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