Repost: I actually am a former stoner as clearly stated in former postings. It's just that at some point, you are faced with situations in life that present a deluge of stress that faces you to make decisions in a way that if you have a clouded mind, you simply cannot make. This is where altered states of consciousness can be achieved without the aid of an exterior chemical influence as the brain can achieve these things on it's own through reason and logic that facets the brains own tendency towards ulterior fantasy and imagination. What a stoner experiences when high can be achieved without an external stimulus of an ingested chemical. Seek any Zen practitioner. Not to say I am against getting high. I just accept the fact that in most countries pot is illegal. Like mentioned earlier, you either rebel against it and get busted, or you move where is is legal and then you have no problems. Or you exploit those things that are legal. So do not let my postings be either for or against. If anything, I am pro logic and anti illogic.