Why do some pictures come out more as illustrations rather than real pictures

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  1. death_samurai

    death_samurai Ancient Guru

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    Let me show 2 examples.

    This picture looks like a drawing like somebody drew it rather than a picture, this is my opinion

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    This is another one that looks rather like a drawing

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    eclap Banned

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    hdr.
     
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    death_samurai Ancient Guru

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    so hdr images all come out as drawings?
     
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    eclap Banned

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    No, depends on how much range you try to capture. I hate hdr with passion, it all looks awful.
     

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    death_samurai Ancient Guru

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    Is there a site where you can see the various types of hdrs? Why do you hate it? I mean it doesn't make sense it's like hating on HD videos and loving old black and white.
     
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    Cyberdyne Ancient Guru

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    Huge difference between HD and HDR. Apples and oranges.
     
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    0blivious Ancient Guru

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    Those pics above look like HDR with some strong filter effects applied. Standard HDR doesn't typically look so surreal.

    I was under the impression that HDR simply takes multiple exposures (at different lighting levels) and combines them, giving a more proper representation of the scene than a single (light-level) exposure could ever hope to achieve. Is that inaccurate?
     
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    HDR can ruin a good picture


    lol and those pics look like a game to me
     
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    Glidefan Don Booze Staff Member

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    HDR. because a lot of people think that HDR means "lets get rid of all the shadows and ruin the depth cues from the scene."
    HDR is for retaining as much info as possible. Not actually showing everything at once.
     
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    it really depends on how much range you capture in a HDR photo, if you go from one extreme to another, it'll look like that, or even worse. Imo, tasteful HDR is ok, in some cases. I mean +/- 2 steps give or take. but anything extreme makes me want to vom.
     

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    Darkest Ancient Guru

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    I thought the top one was Sleeping Dogs at first.
     
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    There's plenty of pics like that online, and I agree that type of HDR almost always ruins the image.

    Too much contrast, gamma, and oversaturated (colour).
     
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    death_samurai Ancient Guru

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    so that means capturing a picture with very quick shutter speed making it very dark and then combining it with one with a very slow shutter speed making it bright makes it look less real?
     
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    eclap Banned

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    Basically, yes. You take multiple shots with different exposures. Then combine them, getting a much wider range of lighting.
     
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    thatguy91 Ancient Guru

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    Those pictures don't look like very good HDR pictures to me. HDR can actually be really useful, depending on the implementation. Those pictures (along with most others you can tell are HDR) are artsy type HDR, not the good kind :).

    Taking pictures of people in the shade with a brighter background is an excellent example where what I would call proper HDR can be useful. The background comes out in the final shot as much less bright, and the shaded areas where the people as more bright.

    It's probably why they call this HDR backlight (typically):

    I did a quick Google image search, here's an example of what I see as useful (not that crappy artsy) HDR:
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    Another example:
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    Not only can you see the person better, the background is also much better (you can see the clouds in the sky).

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    just look through this thread, a lot of crap HDR photos exactly like the ones in the OP here. Examples where HDR completely kills the dynamics of a photo, with destroyed shadows and highlights pulled out of oblivion. http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=327574

    examples above ^ all the photographer needed to do is use a touch of diffused flash and you'd get much better results than HDR. Apart from that cave shot, of course.
     
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    Or just depending how much dynamic range you camera has, you can just "up" the shadows slide in lightroom/photoshop.


    Also,

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    most dslr will have pretty much identical dynamic range nowadays.

    btw, I'm sure you don't believe you need to go anywhere near HDR for that mountain/lake photo above ^
     
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    I know, it's just illustrating that HDR is supposed to be subtle.

    True, though most entry level dslr's still have somewhat sucky DR. It's crazy how good DR has gotten though, like on D800 for example. at base iso it has like 5 stops of good information.
     

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