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Why do laptops always boot faster?

Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by TwL, Aug 8, 2012.

  1. TwL

    TwL Ancient Guru

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    This is rather interesting, but even last 10 years old laptops still boots/starts faster than any desktop computer in this planet. Why is this so? Why is the IO so much better on laptops, what makes it better than 1-10K euro machine motherboard start-up"/inter connectivity".

    Example:
    1. Walk to store buy any laptop from there. (I do not care what model, who made it).
    2. Get any desktop motherboard since 1990 and hit any processor on it with even any SSD from market. (I don't care if you stick 50 euros or 20 thousand euros on the box).
    3. boot them up and see.

    Result:
    I promise the laptop wins 100% sure so on BIOS software start as well as hardware detection time and windows boot time.

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    (Just for the concept why I am asking is I've been fixing and optimizing computers for past 20 years. I still see about 25-50 laptops and desktops every single week and it's a slow period of time and in every single occasion
    this is has been the case always. So, I am simply curious, if there is some engineer / HW devel here who could clarify the situation to me how it is even possible.)
     
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  2. nhlkoho

    nhlkoho Ancient Guru

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    I can tell you that my almost 4 year old desktop boots more than twice as fast as my brand new laptop.
     
  3. TwL

    TwL Ancient Guru

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    That's probably an software being less than 1/10 what it's these days and all the Microsoft advertisement of their totally useless software while not giving us clean MinWin. Instead you get bloated non-secure malware box right from store spreading all your information across the galaxy with a single click. ;)

    but question was about Desktop <-> Laptop relationship. I mean should I start buying laptop motherboards and hot vaxing the components together to get same speed on the desktop or what.
     
  4. nhlkoho

    nhlkoho Ancient Guru

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    What are you smoking? And can I have some?

    The first thing I do when I ever buy a laptop is to do a fresh install of Windows to get the crap off of it. I just did this last week with the same Windows 7 disc I use to install windows on my desktop. I haven't done a reinstall of Windows on my desktop in almost a year and it still boots up much faster than my laptop.

    I don't know what type of computers you are working on and I'm not sure you know what you are talking about.
     

  5. TwL

    TwL Ancient Guru

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    Nah, was just trying to be funny while saying that we still are running 10 times the core processes we used to run on older systems. Windows 7 is a bloatware of minimum 25-29 processes running on barebone which all are at least 10 times bigger than older systems like in XP we could run it with 7 processes even those would be smaller than any of the windows 7 processes not to even consider Windows 8 crap they now are bringing to light.

    and I am working with regular laptops and desktops 90% from just home customers rest corporate machines. Point of this topic was to just understand why is laptop always faster in IO stress than desktop even without anything else attached than basic 1 hd, cpu, 1 gpu (even with integrated ones) and as you there pointed out older ones might even be faster than the newer ones on desktops so perhaps it's just old quality hardware left behind on laptops which new desktops suffers a new badly optimized/cheezy hardware. :infinity:

    as for smoking don't much smoke these days too expensive, but I do have pretty decent overdose of coffeine or alcohol time to time depending on occasion. currently coffeine. ;)
     
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  6. Dillinger

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  7. dcx_badass

    dcx_badass Ancient Guru

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    My little atom/hdd netbook boot time is inbetween my desktop with SSD and my Sandybridge I3 laptop with HDD. Makes no sense to me, but I've noticed similar.
     
  8. kakarot

    kakarot Maha Guru

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    I have never seen a laptop match a desktop in anything, let alone boot up.
     
  9. XL_ence

    XL_ence Maha Guru

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    They don't.
     
  10. kanej2007

    kanej2007 Ancient Guru

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    This!
     

  11. FatBoyNL

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    My Galaxy S2 even boots faster than a laptop! Might have something to do with the zero things attached that should be checked or looked for by BIOS/(U)EFI/whatever after booting ;)
    A laptop can (and should) be compared to a severely castrated desktop. It uses less resources and therefore it should take less time to allocate resources.
    Assuming this thread is not about laptops resuming from standby/sleep/hibernation :)
     
  12. deltatux

    deltatux Ancient Guru

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    Ummm, your average laptop doesn't boot faster than a desktop. My desktop boots faster than any laptop, esp. since I have an SSD, even before the SSD, my laptop was slower than even my old desktop.

    deltatux
     
  13. scoutingwraith

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    Well mine boots slower due to me experimenting with Linux so i go through Bootloaders and such.... Other than that it was a tad bit slower than my desktop because of the software that Alienware uses for its Laptop thats into the installation.
     
  14. MM10X

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    Dell XPS 15z, with sandisk SATA 3 SSD, boots in ~20-25 seconds. most of that is the BIOS takes 10 seconds to start!!

    Old Dell optiplex 330, put intel X25-e SSD in it, boots in 17 seconds to desktop from button press.

    Both clean Windows 7 professional 64-bit installations.

    OP is smoking the good stuff. :)
     
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    My laptop beats my desk top every time, but its due to some BIOS settings that need to be turned off.
     

  16. eclap

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    laptops boot faster than desktops? not on average, no...
     
  17. StewieTech

    StewieTech Chuck Norris

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    This! And...

    SSD!
     
  18. eclap

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    yeah, I mean there will be some laptops booting faster than some desktops. I've seen some "horror" PCs where it took like 10 minutes for the desktop to boot. that desktop was about 8 years old and on it's first w7 installation.

    Anyway, laptop vs desktop, desktop will boot faster because in general their hard drives are faster, their rams are faster etc.
     
  19. MM10X

    MM10X Ancient Guru

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    A slight revision to my post, my desktop rig has a RAID setup as well as a seperate SSD on a second SATA III controller, in this case the RAID bios also has to boot before the OS, causing slower boot times than my laptop with the same SSD.

    It all depends on system configuration, an optimized desktop(minimal bios settings) with a single hard drive is always going to boot the same as a laptop with similar configuration.
     
  20. Virtue

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    A laptop will boot faster with an SSD than a desktop if it doesn't have 3 post screens to go through, which most desktops do and laptops don't due to the specific motherboard. It may vary and others don't have those screens, but I do, so I know what the OP is talking about.
     

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