Who needs a 3080 if you can get GeForce Now..

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by Ne1l, Feb 27, 2021.

  1. Ne1l

    Ne1l Active Member

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    This thread is going nowhere, most aren't reading comments and have a 'fake news' opinion because of the headline or expanding the scope of my original point to score points:

    I have only purchased Nvidia since the TNT2, (PowerVR & VooDoo2 before then) I upgraded to the best of every other generation over the years or sometimes the second-best to get higher performance via SLI (eg GTX465 software unlocked to 470's then SLI'd) -- I understand local hardware will always be better!

    GeForce Now isn't for everyone but for those with an itch to experience RTX and a fast connection (I have 500MB fiber and I live pretty close to one of their datacenters) it's shockingly good to a long-term hardware nut like me. Throw in an Nvidia Shield TV Pro and the experience of 4K AI is good enough for me to skip this Generation and get the next GPU when it can do 4K HDR @120fps comfortably.

    Why does anybody pay the crazy GPU prices (if you can find one or even more from a scalper) for the top cards and still need to dial back the graphics settings to make games from 2020 playable at 60fps.. actually wasn't Control a 2019 game!
     

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  2. Ne1l

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    That isn't the point and never was.. you can't play any rockstar games on a 3080 if you can't buy one!
     
  3. fr33k

    fr33k Ancient Guru

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    but i did buy one.
     
  4. toyo

    toyo Master Guru

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    Not interested at all.
    For me, PC gaming was always 50% tuning and tweaking and hearing the fans when the action starts. Getting to delid my CPU. Doing cable management. Seeing how OCing the CPU boosted the NVMe bench scores. Seeing how many Wear Leveling cycles it takes for a percent of SSD to be removed.
    You get the idea.
    To make things worse, I don't like any modern games, like, at all. I played Witcher from the very start and loved it - can't stand Cyberpunk. I used to raid in WoW at pretty high level, at times in the top 20-50 guilds in the world in 2007-2010 or so. I can't stand what Blizzard has become. I used to love immersing myself in Bioware's virtual worlds, from Baldur's Gate to the ME series. I could barely finish Dragon Age Inquisition, it was that bad.
    If I "play" these games, it's purely to see how they run, basically looking more at the MSI AB overlay than liking the game. Not paying for that.
     
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  5. Ne1l

    Ne1l Active Member

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    Similar to me, I give a game a try but very few games take hold. The better-half is playing CyberPunk, on GeForce Now via her PC @1080p, not the shield, its not my type of game either. Strangely the DarkSouls series got me hooked, the only modern trilogy I've ever completed.

    My Dad's mate introduced OC to me on the Commodore64 when I was a kid (some turn'y nob thingy, top middle above the keyboard) and I never looked back. That's when gaming was really fun, using a screwdriver to tweak the tape cassettes reader head and not know if I'd get an 'error inline 1' for 30-40 minutes, kids of today have it soo easy.


    Building extreme PC's till they break then backing off slightly is what I really like 'if there's a good reason' --

    I bought the EVGA SR-2, 2x E5-5690's and overclocked all cores to a crazy 4.2Ghz all 'on air', getting the ECC memory to stay stable while it chugged on big-adv F@H workloads was evil'y rewarding (like DarkSouls) -- ahh those were the good old days before 'plug and play' OC'ing came along. Duron 600@1000mhz, VooDoo2 and GLquake was fun too, solid copper cooler cost a small fortune ;-)

    My old Bios settings for any naysayers and also picture for the opinionated PC master race wannabies, I've been sucking eggs better and longer than most of you ;-)

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    You're just trying to troll to cover up your incorrect 'I like to own my own games' comment -- You could play any rockstar game but not currently if you want to be pedantic.
     
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    Kevin Mauro Master Guru

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    It's ok but longterm it's nice to have the opposite imo
     
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  8. fr33k

    fr33k Ancient Guru

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    no i really do have one. and i was just pointing out i can't play all the games that i currently own over streaming.
    do ubisoft games work? i tend to play those the most.
     
  9. Ne1l

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    According to this year old post on Nvidia forums, uplay+ works fine, someone nekro'd it recently to confirm it still works and advised an easier way to get it working.

    Thanks for asking I wouldn't have known if you hadn't, got loads of games on uplay too.
     
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    fr33k Ancient Guru

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    yeah uplay+ works fine after searching only over nvidia shield.
    i don't have uplay+ either tho.
     

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    I totally agree.., I've played a few of the 120fps games on the Xbox Series X and that's now the benchmark if I need to sell a kidney for a GPU.

    "Ori and the Will of the Wisps" 4k@120fps HDR10 is something to be seen and felt. This is what I want but on more challenging games, Red Dead 2, CyberPunk, WatchDogs, Metro etc before I do my next GPU upgrade.

    Until that utopia arrives GeForce Now 4K AI upscaling is more than acceptable 'to me'.. $25 for a 6 months subscription is crazy value and with none of the instant buyer's remorse that I usually get after a new PC build :)
     
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  12. Espionage724

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    I'd need a GPU for PCVR. Apparently people have gotten cloud VR working, but I'm not convinced the latency is anything ideal or consistent unless you live in the same town as the server.

    Pretty sure I wouldn't necessarily need a 3080 though. I'd be content with a 3060 :p
     
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    "Who needs a 3080 if you can get GeForce Now?"

    People who like to play video games rather than watch a video of themselves trying to play video games remotely with huge input lag.
     
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    Here is a great use for Gforce now on my RTX 3080. GPU Mining Crypto while playing CyberPuck 2077 on my LG B9 65" 4K lol . Edit the video was taken from a 4K monitor and not the LG OLED.
     

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