What's the best MP3 encoder?

Discussion in 'Soundcards, Speakers HiFI & File formats' started by =MANTIS=, May 27, 2001.

  1. =MANTIS=

    =MANTIS= Guest

    I'm trying to find an encoder that will give me the highest quality file and not just at a higher bit rate.<br>
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    I have and currently use Music Match Jukebox which is pretty good, but I read somewhere that some of the codecs in it were broken and can produce poorer sound after ripping and encoding.<br>
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    Anyone have any suggestions for a good/great ripper/encoder/player?<br>
    It can be freeware or one that I have to pay for. The emphesis is quality.
     
  2. Dave

    Dave Don Fredo Corleone

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    Siren has one, can't recall the name right this second. Let me see if I can go find a top ten list. I know Siren was on one.
     
  3. Pesari

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    I have Fraunhofer MP3ENC, which is very good-quality.<br>
    Edit: nevermind..<br><br><i>This message was edited by Pesari on 28 May 2001 10:38 AM</i>
     
  4. Ice Cold

    Ice Cold Guru of 3D Bartender

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    try to Find AudioCatalyst.... it's a full program , that includes encoding of MP3's uses the Xing MP3 encoder (wich is really good, i use it all the time)
     

  5. Brann Mitchell

    Brann Mitchell Member Guru

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    BladeENC. It is the best sounding for high bit rate encoding. It's also free (last I downloaded it). It does things it's own way (which is good) and also sounds good, provided you jack up the bit-rate pretty high. Fraunhoffer is the best at Napster quality encodings (128 or so).<br>
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  6. Xemus

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    you might check this out. A friend recommended it to me and i have yet to use it myself but it sounded like exactly what i was looking for. CDex is a freeware program that apparently lets you rip from CD in wav form and lets you encode to mp3 in as high a bitrate as +300kbps which offers great sound quality. <br>
    <br> <A HREF="http://softwarecenter.net/cdex/" TARGET=_blank>http://softwarecenter.net/cdex/</A><br>
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    if you decide to check it out lemmie know what you think. I havent been able to bring myself to dig up 100's of CDs and start ripping just yet and actually try it. Looks good for the high bitrate encoding tho.<br>
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  7. Soccerboy007

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    I agree with Ice Cold, Xing MP3 encoder is very good. I used to use it back in the days..now i don't care about mp3s. heh so try to get the full Xing program, it was pretty useful.<br>
    -Bob
     
  8. Annorax

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Soccerboy007:<br>
    <b>I agree with Ice Cold, Xing MP3 encoder is very good. I used to use it back in the days..now i don't care about mp3s. heh so try to get the full Xing program, it was pretty useful.<br>
    -Bob</b><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>
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    Actually, almost everyone´s wrong... AudioCatalyst sucks, Xing sucks, MP3ENC sucks, MusicMatch sucks, Fraunhofer sucks, and so on... Lame is the only truely good MP3 encoder ever made... Don´t believe me? Want to see some proof? Well look no further, check out <A HREF="http://users.belgacom.net/gc247244/index.html" TARGET=_blank>http://users.belgacom.net/gc247244/index.html</A> and click on the button where it says "Analysis" and read it... Lame comes in version 3.89 alpha 1 now and it´s better than ever... 192kbit ABR MP3 encoded files produced with Lame 3.89 alpha 1 only differs a few percent from the original song, even better sometimes depending on the type of music and the way it´s "built"...
     
  9. =MANTIS=

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    Where can one find this "Lame" encoder? I'd like to try it. <IMG SRC="smileys/suspect.gif">
     
  10. pigmode

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    Check out Annorax's link above. There are tutorials and forums that cover most of the issues. <br>
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    It may take a while to configure, but EAC and RazorLame work great for me. There are many many options from which to choose in terms of file size and sound quality. You can use EAC to rip and RazorLame to encode, although EAC can be set up to rip/encode in one step as well.<br>
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  11. Annorax

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by =MANTIS=:<br>
    <b>Where can one find this "Lame" encoder? I'd like to try it. <IMG SRC="smileys/suspect.gif"></b><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>
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    Personally I use CDex to encode MP3:s with Lame 3.89 alpha 1... You´ll find CDex here: <A HREF="http://www.cdex.n3.net" TARGET=_blank>http://www.cdex.n3.net</A>... It´s totally free and it´s very good... Compatible with loads of MP3 encoders... But Lame is the only one worth using... <IMG SRC="smileys/wink.gif"> You´ll need ASPI drivers[ to use it if you don´t already have it yet... You´ll find ForceASPI here: <A HREF="http://www.cyrus.troy.btinternet.co.uk/downloads/frcASPI17.zip" TARGET=_blank>http://www.cyrus.troy.btinternet.co.uk/downloads/frcASPI17.zip</A>... If the link is no longer available, please message me and I´ll send it to you via e-mail... <IMG SRC="smileys/smile.gif">
     
  12. =MANTIS=

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    I was able to get a copy of RazorLame 1.1.4 from a link on <A HREF="http://www.r3mix.net." TARGET=_blank>http://www.r3mix.net</A>. I couldn't find just the Lame.exe file to use with other front end apps. I found the source files though but I don't know how to use them. I must admit, I'm a little confused.<br>
    At least the copy of RazorLame has Lame built in so I was able to play with it. It's much more complicated than MMJB I've been using. I also picked up Exact Audio Copy to do my ripping.<br>
    I've got some new toys to play with.<br>
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    Thanks for all the suggestions! <IMG SRC="smileys/biggrin.gif"> <br>
    <br><br><i>This message was edited by =MANTIS= on 12 Jun 2001 09:38 PM</i>
     
  13. Annorax

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by =MANTIS=:<br>
    <b>I was able to get a copy of RazorLame 1.1.4 from a link on <A HREF="http://www.r3mix.net." TARGET=_blank>http://www.r3mix.net</A>. I couldn't find just the Lame.exe file to use with other front end apps. I found the source files though but I don't know how to use them. I must admit, I'm a little confused.<br>
    At least the copy of RazorLame has Lame built in so I was able to play with it. It's much more complicated than MMJB I've been using. I also picked up Exact Audio Copy to do my ripping.<br>
    I've got some new toys to play with.<br>
    Thanks for all the suggestions! <IMG SRC="smileys/biggrin.gif"></b><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>
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    Then you should really try CDex because it already comes with Lame so there´s no problems using it... <IMG SRC="smileys/smile.gif"> The only thing that you can´t do with CDex and Lame is to encode Freeformat MP3:s so you´ll have to do that with the external MP3 Lame encoder...
     
  14. Ice Cold

    Ice Cold Guru of 3D Bartender

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    tsss... i like Xing, you like something else....so ****ing what
     
  15. =MANTIS=

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    I'll check out the CDex as well.<br>
    Tring to re-encode some of my 160 Gig o' music.<br>
    Thanks again.
     

  16. pigmode

    pigmode Guest

    I noticed at the r3mix news page that the new recommended encoder is win32Lame. All it is is the latest RazorLame and Lame already preconfigured. I think it also comes preset to r3mix command settings, which will get you going until you decide to experiment with other settings. <br>
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    Check out the top bar and the June 1 entry.<br>
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  17. qube

    qube Guru of 3D Security

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    Xing's AudioCatalyst. Set it up with VBR and rock and roll.<br>
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    There's a bit of an oxymoron there. Looking for high(est) quality and MP3 at the same time. Assuming you have high fidelity equipment and a pair of eardrums, MP3 is still spotty. Assuming middle class equipment... high quality MP3 will not make much of a difference.<br>
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    The compromise? VBR MP3. Small size, versatile, high quality when you need it.<br><br><i>This message was edited by CPUWatercool.COM on 04 Jul 2001 11:35 AM</i>
     
  18. Ice Cold

    Ice Cold Guru of 3D Bartender

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by qube:<br>
    <b>Xing's AudioCatalyst. Set it up with VBR and rock and roll.<br>
    There's a bit of an oxymoron there. Looking for high(est) quality and MP3 at the same time. Assuming you have high fidelity equipment and a pair of eardrums, MP3 is still spotty. Assuming middle class equipment... high quality MP3 will not make much of a difference.<br>
    The compromise? VBR MP3. Small size, versatile, high quality when you need it.</b><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br>
    you mean that variable quality thingy ?
     

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