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what tweaks do you do for your fresh win10 installs? (from gaming/performance perspective)

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  1. alexander1986

    alexander1986 Member Guru

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    read through the stickied tweak post and lots of googling on the subject, but still curious, what tweaks/disabling of services etc do you usually do after installing win10 fresh?


    for example first thing after installing fresh windows is usually boot offline without network connection, then install latest drivers for all my hardware I saved to usb stick, (but not bloatware like some certain mouse software and similar, I try to only get lightweight or driver-only stuff unless I need some specific app or function included in driver) and then go online, update windows to all new security updates etc, after that I usually:

    set high performance power plan

    set MSI mode for any device I have that supports it and is not already using MSI mode by default

    turn off win update in gpedit so I can manually update later on when I want to,
    turn off defender in gpedit
    turn off superfetch/prefetch services in services.msc/registry (perhaps not big tweak but saves a little bit of RAM from what I can see)
    turn off & remove onedrive
    turn off fast boot/hibernation
    turn off delivery optimization
    turn off indexer service/file indexing
    remove all metro/modern apps from powershell like xbox app etc
    turn off all background apps in windows settings -> privacy


    enable safe mode f8 boot option with: " bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy " from elevated commandprompt

    turn off default weekly scheduled disk optmization and run it manually when I want (TRIM is fast with a ssd drive anyway, but still like to have it manual)



    disable some services in service.msc like print spooler (dont use printer, if you do then leave on I guess),
    and a lot of other services like sensor / smart card / geolocation / hyper-v / alljoyn router services etc etc,
    there are lots of guides/lists to google easily for what services can safely be disabled on a performance/gaming desktop, but too many to list here I guess, just an example,



    turn off game mode/game DVR/disable fullscreen optimizations globally (I prefer fullscreen exclusive mode in games always, but some users maybe want fullscreen optimizations enabled, if you like fast alt-tabbing or need volume control overlays in games etc, also from win 1809 build not sure you can really get true exclusive fullscreen mode any longer, even by doing everything to disable fullscreen optimizations)




    turn off telemetry , I use the app "Shutup 10" for this, nice freeware app, it can also disable defender/win update etc, I think telemetry can also be disabled with:


    " Start > Run > Services.msc

    Find, stop and disable:

    DiagTrack
    Dmwappushservice
    Open an elevated command prompt and copy and paste these lines:

    echo. >%programdata%\Microsoft\Diagnosis\ETLLogs\AutoLogger\AutoLogger-Diagtrack-Listener.etl

    cacls.exe "%programdata%\Microsoft\Diagnosis\ETLLogs\AutoLogger\AutoLogger-Diagtrack-Listener.etl" /d SYSTEM "



    Im not sure this in reality completely turns off every telemetry available in the OS, never know what Microsoft has in the background I guess but still,




    also I dont know if this makes a real difference but usually also I do this:

    in regedit : HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\Multimedia\SystemProfile

    NetworkThrottlingIndex=set to ffffffff to Disable

    (10 is default instead of ffffffff, supposedly lets your connection perform at its max capacity at all times, for gaming etc, not sure if actually matters)





    And that is pretty much everything I usually do on fresh installs, after that install games/apps I need etc, im sure some if this is unnecessary, or perhaps I missed some important good tweaks or forgot them, but interested to see if anyone has feedback on this, should I do something more/differently or skip entirely? or additional tips on tweaks that matter, etc.



    Cheers and appreciate any feedback :)
     
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  2. mbk1969

    mbk1969 Ancient Guru

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    I do these:
    - MSI mode for devices;
    - switch unneeded services from automatic to manual start;
    - disable unneeded tasks in Task Scheduler;
    - disable unneeded logs in Event Viewer;
    - set the power plans`s settings to my liking (staying on balanced power plan, switching to performance one only for games);
    - set "Adaptive" in global NVIDIA profile and "Prefer performance" in games profiles;
    - turn off full screen optimizations for games;
    - delete unneeded UWP apps.

    First command writes "." into etl-file. Second command denies access to the file for user System.
    File location can be verified here:
    - run perfmon.exe;
    - expand "Data Collector Sets => Startup Event Trace Sessions";
    - double click "Autologger-Diagtrack-Listener";
    - in properties dialog switch to "File" tab
    [​IMG]

    On tab "Trace session" there is check box "Enabled" but when you change it and click "Apply" you see message about denied access.
    [​IMG]
     
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  3. LocoDiceGR

    LocoDiceGR Ancient Guru

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    I do only 1 thing.

    Using only this app -> wpd.app
     
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  4. dr_rus

    dr_rus Ancient Guru

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    From gaming/performance perspective? None.
     

  5. Pandora's Box

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    Pretty much this. Back in the day when system resources were limited, but these days with the powerful CPU's we are running and the copious amounts of RAM - meh.
     
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  6. Undying

    Undying Ancient Guru

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    Only thing i was doing was disabling the superfetch (new sysmain) to save ssd life a bit but now there is no really need for it.

    So gaming wise nothing like others said.
     
  7. EdKiefer

    EdKiefer Ancient Guru

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    "turn off full screen optimizations for games"
    I tried this on a few games I run, mainly BF4, BF1, and BFV but I can't notice a difference, what is this suppose to do, run smoother?

    Edit: On performance monitor stuff, I notice there a WifiSession running, I don't even have wifi support enabled on this PC. There is a wifi card on MB but I have it disabled in bios and no drivers loaded.
     
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  8. mbk1969

    mbk1969 Ancient Guru

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    Well, if we think that this optimization forces to use windowed mode instead of exclusive full screen mode - to make game bar tools visible on the screen - I prefer to disable it just because games were developed namely for exclusive full screen mode and developers - both game and videocard drivers ones - know better.
     
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  9. EdKiefer

    EdKiefer Ancient Guru

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    I don't use game bar so I'll give it another shot.
     
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  10. alexander1986

    alexander1986 Member Guru

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    just be aware that in win10 1809 and in a lot of games Ive tested, ticking this checkbox does nothing and you will still be in some hybrid fullscreen/windowed mode, there is a lot of posts about this on the net,

    can test easy by pressing windowkey when running a fullscreen game and if startmenu pops up = it is not fullscreen exclusive mode

    helped another user on this forum to fix it today with a registry change here: https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/the-truth-about-pre-rendering-0.365860/page-24#post-5657556


    if you read the last few posts you can see it fixed it for him, Im not sure this actually now is true exclusive fullscreen mode like in older win10 builds, could also vary from game to game perhaps, but yeah, just a headsup :p
     

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    Alessio1989 Maha Guru

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    -gpedit on windows update, aero shake, defender, cortana
    -regedit start to disable web search
    -disable telemetry service and scheduled tasks
    -regedit to ignore remote keyboard layouts (hate this since... since windows support multiple -keyabord layout.. maybe 2000/xp?)
    -regedit to remove 3d object metalinks
    -fix powershell colours (0-day bug never fixed)
    -regedit to disable automatic folder type
    -regedit to disable automatic thumbnails cache delete
    -delete 2/3 of preinstalled UWP apps
    -fix paging file size
    -fix hibernation file size
    -remove useless additional components
    -install needed additional components
    -double check privacy and sync settings
    -install a custom made keyboard layout to fix the abomination IBM created as keyboard layout for my language (like absence of tilde and backquote.. unfortunately I cannot change the physical layout without cutting off half needed vowels symbols)
    -custom ethernet adapter and connection settings
    -fix the abomination that my country selected as math punctuation symbols to match international standards (which automatically fixes all CSV imports and math copy&paste on calculator)
    -disable useless features of game-bar
    -fix task manager columns layouts
    -fix explorer and DWM shortcuts
    -redirect music, movies, pictures and documents paths and fix shared drives

    I think that's all.
     
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  12. EdKiefer

    EdKiefer Ancient Guru

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    Yeh, I tried your reg changes but windows key still opens in BFx games.
     
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  13. alexander1986

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    interesting, did you add manually this value ? GameDVR_FSEBehavior and set it to "2" in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\GameConfigStore ?

    because, its easy to miss, by default this value doesnt exist in win10 1809 so must add it manually, also doublecheck that rest is same as on the pictures please,
    I will paste them here again:

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    [​IMG]



    Its also worth completely disabling game mode/game bar/xbox app (can remove xbox app from powershell) if it still is the same issue after double/triple checking the above, if you have the time would be great :)

    so I know 100% this solution works for all users, for me and other dude in the other thread it works atleast, so its interesting !


    EDIT: its also possible some value or values on the second screenshot for gamebar registry options are not existing by default, check that also please,
     
  14. EdKiefer

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    yeh, I already had the two GameDVR_FSEBehavior ones set to 2, I changed the user ones (GameDVR_HonorUserFSEBehaviorMode, GameDVR_DXGIHonorFSEWindowsCompatible) to 1 like in your pic and also disabled game mode in second pic like yours but still windows key brings me to desktop.
    I now reverted all settings back to what I had, reg wise.
    I don't have any issues so not big deal.
     
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    I see, good to know atleast !

    there is a chance disabling in-game overlay in origin settings would fix it for origin games, (and or completely removing everything with gamebar/xbox app etc from win10) but if it works fine for you it works fine :)

    microsoft claims the fullscreen optimization should work just as good or even better than the old exclusive fullscreen atleast thats what they are working towards, even saw some benchmark they posted somewhere with slightly improved fps numbers with it enabled vs old exclusive fullscreen, but yeah, if it works fine it works fine for you :D

    cheers!
     

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    I have origin overlay disabled for longest time, as I think it messed with AB, but yeh the only thing I had on is game mode, but DVR stuff all disabled as I never use it.
     
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    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Multimedia\SystemProfile]
    "NetworkThrottlingIndex"=dword:ffffffff
    "SystemResponsiveness"=dword:00000000

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Multimedia\SystemProfile\Tasks\Games]
    "Scheduling Category"="High"
    "SFIO Priority"="High"
    "Background Only"="False"
    "Priority"=dword:00000001
    "Clock Rate"=dword:00002710
    "GPU Priority"=dword:00000001
    "Affinity"=dword:00000000
     
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  18. alexander1986

    alexander1986 Member Guru

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    Ive seen those last tweaks also when googling win10 tweaks, do they really change anything noticeable in your case? like whats the difference between default or the tweaked values in games for example if any? :p
     
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    I will not answer for akbaar, I will just point out that for these "SystemProfile\Tasks" registry keys (and values) to take effect on the program the program should call specific Win32 API function to register itself as one of the task profiles.
     
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  20. EdKiefer

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    That makes sense then, as I have tried in the past and didn't notice any change.
    Most games are 64bit nowadays.
     

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