What is freedom?

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  1. Estima8tor

    Estima8tor Ancient Guru

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    It's just a word, here is the definition. It has many connotations. What else do you need to know about it?

    noun
    1. the state of being free or at liberty rather than in confinement or under
    physical restraint: He won his freedom after a retrial.
    2. exemption from external control, interference, regulation, etc.
    3. the power to determine action without restraint.
    4. political or national independence.
    5. personal liberty, as opposed to bondage or slavery: a slave who bought
    his freedom.
     
  2. airbud7

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    Love it^....:banana:
     
  3. Mr.Bigtime

    Mr.Bigtime Ancient Guru

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    As we saw the last riot in Turkey, according to those people who burned down busses, shops windows, banks, cars and governmental properties and civil properties; that is FREEDOM what they did. expressing their ideology. so if police is using force on them, that is crime what police is doing.

    and swearing to government , saying unspeakable things to a president of a country is freedom. and if that president uses law to sue them, that is crime according to those punks. sigh.
     
  4. FULMTL

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    My first thought is that freedom is wearing boxers.
     

  5. Loobyluggs

    Loobyluggs Ancient Guru

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    Freedom is no laws, or taxes, in a society where no one has to work because every need is fulfilled and money does not exist.

    Basically Star Trek in the 24th century, with holosuites on every street.
     
  6. dsbig

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    freedom is being able to use the bathroom longer then 5 minutes.
    leave the house.
    go on a hike.
    sleep when ever you want.
     
  7. Akhkaru

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    Freedom is not having to worry about your privacy being accessed unwillingly. Freedom is the ability to live without fear of one's government. Freedom is not being conditioned by the media into thinking how the corporate world wants us to think.

    Sadly, America has no freedom. We're constantly being spied on, pushed into fear by the government becoming larger and more powerful, and we are being conditioned to eat unhealthy foods and be blinded by mindless things to avoid the general populace from looking elsewhere for a semblance of truth.
     
  8. Redemption80

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    Only for you though, it will mean something different depending who is asked the question.

    People have as much freedom as they want or can handle, if they truly wanted and deserved more then they create more for themselves.
     
  9. Ghosty

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    You still have to work for the rest of your life, a slave to the system. You don't really have much choice really. Some people could call this freedom I guess.
     
  10. Brasky

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    you don't HAVE to work, you are free to live in poverty and die young.
     

  11. F1refly

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    To me it's about having the ability to live peacefully without force to do certain things or being oppressed.
    As far as privacy goes, I consider it that when I'm online, on phone, outdoors ..etc that I am public, am part of the public and as such are subject to being watched.
    Only inside of my home, not online or on phone..etc do I consider myself not public. Freedom to me has nothing to do with behaviors since we live in a society where certain behaviors are considered appropriate and if you want to exist in that society then you accept but you are free to live in the desert. Freedom shouldn't be about "I do what I want" attitude.

    Basically I don't care about prism or any other such, I have nothing to hide, am not shady nor do illegal or immoral things...that's kinda what everyone keeps telling everyone else how they are supposed to be right? Don't hypocrite but dictating rules for a society has more to do with the culture of the people within it than it does being considered freedom. Our laws exist cause there are too many dumbasses, Prism exists because there are too many paranoid nutjobs so they had to work around our knowledge of it's existence, I get that.
     
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  12. airbud7

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    Me too^...nuff said.............:boozer:



    :toke:
     
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  13. Year

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    freedom is a world without religion, not a world without nsa, google etc.

    a world without religion is a free world, for the minds of many are infected by the fairytales people read in the books they call holy and their choices will be made trying to avoid angering the god or gods, they believe there's some kind of praise in the end if they keep typing "4,8,15,16,23,42".

    apparently god gave us freedom, but he enslaves you indirectly by scaring you to death, if you don't do as i say you'll go to hell so many men and women end up following a religion and try to please the so called god and if they do it long enough just like the numbers above, they might "experience" something supernatural. :p the power of suggestion is a great one, ask BENNY HINN.

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    you give up on delicious pork because it's not kosher, you give up on pr0n and sex because it's sinful, many hardline believers won't even listen to Megadeth's GO TO HELL (great song) :D they give up on great music too, they give up so many things based on wishful thinking calling it hope.

    "blessed are those who believe without seeing" ... of course, because those who believe without seeing are more likely to believe in anything and they're easier to manipulate.

    so where's the freedom? true freedom? as you can see religion is enslavement, not even governments punish you as much as religion does, every single day of your life.

    so to conclude, to me true freedom comes from freeing your mind from religion, only then not only your soul will be purified, but the entire world too, that's what i think.

    PS. as a non-believer i respect believers, they're human beings afterall, what they believe in is of no importance to me, i treat people equally regardless of their beliefs and sexual orientations, so no offense to anyone, only posted my thoughts.

    //and now i'm off to watch the latest Gianna Michaels xxx movie, now that's heaven. :devil:
     
  14. Brasky

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    you leave my bacon wrapped porn out of this...
     
  15. Year

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    bacon! slurp :D
     

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    Naa, my Uncle is in jail
     
  17. CronoGraal

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    In Norway or the US? Like I said, it's all relative.

    ok i just got your joke ._.
     
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    :D lol
     
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    If you sign over your soul. I can teach you some things about freedom. Just don't mind the contract 50%+ taxation more than half your hard work will go to me. Oh you can only have one choice. I'll add second fake choice to spice things up.
     
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    What is love?
     

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