Watercooling - whats the best of the best?

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  1. Kenshai

    Kenshai Master Guru

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    well im going with watercooling, and plan on mounting the resovouir inside a freezer/fridge.

    but i need to know the best blocks, for 478's, best pumps, best rad's, best pipes, everything.

    i plan on having the CPU cooled and maybe my 9800XT.

    help:)
     
  2. chickenRUN

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    The best of the best, hmmm, (a never ending debate)

    If your going to do a freezer resivor, then you could use a peltier, to get even colder temps. Condensation will be a big one, all your tubing will be condensating, and espeically your block.

    If you do pelt + chilled coolant, then give or take, with a 226 watt switftech pelt+block, you should do sub-zero temps without much of hitch.

    Now it would probably be a toss-up if you got all the "best" components. Due to the fact that company's all make different stuff that does overall the same task.

    A 3x120mm rad fan, danger den waterblocks, and a good pump (hydor/eheim/swiftech) would remove heat just fine. Of course again with a pelt, the same setup without the resivor in the fridge would yeild good temps still.

    (G L your turn :) )
     
  3. MikeMK

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    Yeah, a danger den custom kit is probably the way u want to go.

    Something like a BIX III (double pass triple 120mm rad) would be the best rad, with a TDX or RBX block. As for pump, u want a pretty hi flow one, Im using an Ehiem, but it runs of mains so I have a lead running out the back of my PC. U can get some pretty good 12v pumps thought that run off the PSU.
     
  4. Kenshai

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    condensation on the cpu? im not sure how i'd use a peliter without condension.

    without the peliter, would i still be able to get below 5c temps?

    sounds like all the stuff i was looking at (danger dens and hydor pumps) was good.
     

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    5c without pelt, no highly doubtful.
     
  6. Kenshai

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    ah. will the hydor L35/L30 be submurgable?
     
  7. kwak

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    swiftech storm, a 3*120mm rad, and an iwaki pump.
    not mucht that can beat a setup like that.
     
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    keep in mind ... going below room / case temp will cause condensation ...
     
  9. G L

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    I would do either a chilled resevoir or TECs, both is probably overkill. Though keep in mind with anything sub-ambient, you need to insulate. With TECs you need to insulate the blocks, and with a chilled resevoir you may need to insulate the tubing too.

    Its tough to say what parts are "the best", its really hard to determine that... often several models are considered to be first-tier, but that's about as good as it gets. The good radiator options are hardware labs or thermochill, definately 2x 120 mm or 3x 120 mm, or perhaps an automotive heatercore, like so:

    http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=48&cat=14&page=1

    Pumps, AC pumps by Eheim and Hydor, DC pumps by Liang, sold under the Danger Den and Swiftech brands. DC are more expensive but are easier to enclose since they run off your power supply. I'm really not sure which is best. Here's a review of several, though, you can see that pumps can make a difference:

    http://www.gruntville.com/reviews/wc/Swiftech_MCP_350_vs_PolarFLO_TT/page2.php

    Blocks, probably the most popular are Danger Den TDX and Swiftech MCW-6002. Swfitech has a new "Storm" model too, looks a lot like a TDX.

    Here's a review of a TEC waterblock, shows the whole insulation routine. You should also be able to buy a seperate TEC and use any block, or at least any block that's spring mounted. I think I'd recommend just setting up your more basic watercooler first, think about chilling later.

    http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=Nzg5LDI=
     
  10. Kain

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    What about the Thermaltake Symphony?

    We know that the more heat radiators, the more we get a cool PC.
    The thermaltake Symphony uses and external radiator. About 70cm long with 5x120mm fans rated at 16db.
    It looks like a speaker from a home theater or something like that.
    I have never seen a review about it. I hope i can see it in action soon.

    Heres the link: http://www.thermaltake.com/watercooling/cl-w0040symphony/cl-w0040.htm
     

  11. G L

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    I'm guessing it will be quite expensive... you could probably put something together yourself much cheaper using two or three automotive heatercores, just wouldn't look as nice.
     
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    Right, or 5 radiators with 5 120mm fans and thats all.
    As you said, it wont be that fancy and stilish as the Shymphony.
    BTW, who has a case with 5x120mm fans capability?
     
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    Well, since you asked. Gigabyte's new case (aurora I believe) Has dual 120 exhaust, easily moddable dual 120 side, and tri 120 top if you reallly wanted.

    :)
     
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    GPU:
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    Rad: BIX 3x120mm
    Pump: DangerDen DD5
    CPU block: Swifty Storm
    Res dosnt really matter...
    If you want a GPU block.. then the DD MAZE stuff or PolarFlo blocks are a pretty good choice
    and make sure you get all of this in 1/2" (ID) tubing!

    Oh and if the water is going to hit <0 degrees then your going to want to insulate your components with neoprene.
     

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    Do you have the link?
    Those 3 top 120mm fans should be perfect to mount 2 or 3 radiators with a good watercooling system.
     
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    Nice URL there... I love how the copper TDX ($52) beats the silver TDX ($125).. lol
     

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