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Water Cooling - Buyers Guide

Discussion in 'Die-hard Overclocking & Case Modifications' started by Preachergeek, Feb 7, 2007.

  1. Terrorizor

    Terrorizor Ancient Guru

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    it's no problem at all. it will help you alot if you ask as many questions as you can , and gather as many different opinions as you can , before begining if it's your first experience with liquid.
     
  2. Terrorizor

    Terrorizor Ancient Guru

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    is that chenbro really the case you are using? i was just looking at some images of it , and you could probably do just about anything you want really. literally anything if you intend to drill and/or cut.


    like how "external" are you wanting it? everything outside the case except the block and the tubes running to it ,. or just a specific piece?

    and did you have a budget in mind for what you want to put into it?
     
  3. Alkerion

    Alkerion Member Guru

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    Hi,
    Yes I really use the Chenbro, it's an amazing case, lot of space :)

    You're right, everything outside the case except the block and the tubes running to it, something like the Zalman Reserator XT.
    But I've no idea if it's silent and efficient enough to cool down my 5870.

    As I don't have too much space around my PC I can't really use a big cooling tower with lot of fans.

    I don't really like the idea to have too much water inside the PC, and I would prefer avoid to drill & cut my case.

    And I don't really care of the budget.

    http://www.swiftnets.com/ seems to have really interesting stackable radiators
    http://www.swiftnets.com/assets/images/products/MCR320/mcr320-qp-staked.jpg
    is that good to cool down a GFX card ?

    Enough for both CPU and GPU ?

    Thanks for advises.

    BR
     
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  4. Terrorizor

    Terrorizor Ancient Guru

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    the mcr320 stackable you linked would handle pretty much anything you wanted while using low rpm fans . they just aren't very space friendly ,unless you have a place in mind for something that large already.

    if you are worried about having the mass of the fluid storage inside the case , you could get a swiftech mcr320-qp-res and mount it to the rear 120mm fan with one of the many rear case radiator mounts on the market . so your radiator , reservoir ,and fillport would all be outside bolted to the back of the case . then feed the tubes in through an empty pci slot and just mount your pump inside the case and make the loop go like this.

    320rad/res - (put a T or Y fitting somewhere along this piece of tubing for an easy drain) -pump - cpu - gpu - 320rad/res

    what online e-tailors can you use to get watercooling parts from?
     

  5. ascl

    ascl Active Member

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    Don't get the stackable rads. They are less efficient with low rpm fans than a single rad. They cause too much restriction in air flow. With 3 layers of fans they might be okay, or with some high RPM fans, but for quiet cooling you are better off with a single rad (be it Swiftech or XSPC etc)

    From skinee's site:
    http://www.skinneelabs.com/Radiators/Swiftech/MCR320S/MCR320S.html

     
  6. Alkerion

    Alkerion Member Guru

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    Hi,
    Thanks for your recommendations.

    BR
     
  7. Terrorizor

    Terrorizor Ancient Guru

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    i do agree stackables aren't a practical all-in-one radiator solution at all , and some users might even find it's more than they care to deal with .

    but then again i don't see them as being for just any system either . the fact that a stackable configuration has a lower pressure drop than a single radiator(for obvious reasons , more area for the liquid to go in a single stretch of tubing) , that property alone says to me it is probably better suited for systems running 4-5+ blocks and multiple radiators in a loop . so if you add a 'stackable' as a second radiator to a multiple block system , you get all the benefits of adding radiator's , without the side effects and restrictions to the loop of doing so .

    and people should know before even looking at seriously purchasing one that the expense doesn't end with 2 radiators attatched with a row of fans in the middle like it's mostly shown in pictures . for an mcr 320 stackable it's more like 6xshroud spacers and 9x120mm fans for those fans in the middle to even do anything that could be called 'helping' . so even if you buy cheap sleeve fans ,that is still quite an expense when you havn't even bought the radiator yet . which is the standard mcr320 and a stackable version which is about $10~ more than the standard , and suddenly you have spent close to what an entire liquid system could cost in it's place . and if you want good fans .... it's game over on price .

    the end result of what you have is a small wall standing vertically , or a thick table top laying on its side . that's why i told alkerion they weren't space friendly . but they do have a place in my opinion , that place just isn't for everyone's system as a primary radiator .
     
  8. shadow70

    shadow70 Master Guru

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    l am currently getting my things from 2 different shops as to fans and accessories and my main things from the US, the aussie stuff arive tomorrow and the main things from the use in 1 week. will post photos and more once l get it all.
     
  9. shadow70

    shadow70 Master Guru

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    all my parts arrived in the mail today, yehhhhhh

    am going thought it all know and tonight will be pulling my computer apart to work out all the lenghts, they will put all the cooling things in to do a leak test,

    will post pics when it is all up and going,

    l have set out that it will take me around 2-3 days for it be fully leaked tested and installed.
     
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    good to hear Shadow, enjoy!
     
  12. Tat3

    Tat3 Ancient Guru

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    I tested for about 12hours/over night. I think I enjoyed the most when I was building my system, which was alone worth the cash, more important than the results and lower temperatures. Was fun.

    G'luck with your build :)
     
  13. jed_tb

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    anyone know where i can get 10/8 or 3/8 tubing in the UK? preferably UV.
    im guessing 11/8 would also be fine?
     
  14. The Goose

    The Goose Ancient Guru

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    hi,im finaly making the move to liquid cooling,i recently bought a foxconn blackops mobo and akasa infiniti zor case,the blackops already has nb water block and akasa case has grill for dual rad,for my first wcs i am considering thermaltakes prowater 770 but getting a better cpu block and adding a dual rad aswell as the single rad,all the pictures ive seen of lcs the cpu block is the first in the loop from the pump,would it not be a better idea to have a dual rad first then the cpu block,this is what i had in mind ,dual rad -cpu-northbridge-single rad then back to res,or dual rad-cpu-single rad-northbridge-res,i have chosen tt`s cooler because its out of the way in the drive bays of which the in finiti zor has plenty,my main concern is purging the liquid around the system and clearing air buble`s,i have a very good air cooled system but im just as interested in the visual side
     
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  15. Rockshocker

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    Hi everyone. I went out and bought the H50 cpu cooler and some high flow low noise fans and a fan controller in an effort to quiet my computer first, and to lower my temperatures so that I can get a better overclock than with the stock Intel cooler.

    It took maybe an hour to strip out the motherboard and get the cooler and fan controller installed in the case. Everything works, my idle temperatures are 39 to 40 degrees at 3800 MHz at 1.2 volts. Prime95 heats it up to 65ish degrees.

    I can still hear my computer fans however, either the power supply or the graphics card fan is the culprit this time, it's very quiet though, I hear the hard drives now and before I couldn't so I guess the noise level is relative.

    My next task is to find out how low I get get the voltage with the overclock.

    I'm using 1333 memory and I'm wondering what difference using the fastest memory would be, will webpages burst onto the screen faster or will games look smoother, will there be any large performance increase or will the main difference be felt in benchmark numbers?
     

  16. B0GiE-uk-

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  17. hallryu

    hallryu Don Altobello

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    Swiftech Edge series surfaces in UK

    http://www.overclock.co.uk/news/#502

    H20-220 EDGE: £204.00 ex vat £239.70 inc vat

    H20-320 EDGE: £234.00 ex vat £274.95 inc vat

    Mrs gave me a green light for the 320. Ordering later today.:D

    Planning my loop here:
    http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=330457
    Advice welcome, as I'm a water n00b.:D
     
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  18. shadow70

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    hey all l am updating my water-cooling and am wondering if to do the flow in either of these two was, which would would be best to do.


    option 1: res-pump-RAd1-RAD2-CPU-GPU-res

    option 2: res-pump-rad1-cpu-rad2-gpu-res

    which was should l do option 1 or option 2.


    also rad 1 is inside the case at the top which l have a haf932 and the rad 2 in outside on the top of the case.
     
  19. JmanEspresso

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    It doesnt matter. Its all one closed loop, the order won't change anything. AT BEST you could see a single degree difference.

    Just make it look nice and clean and you'll be all set.
     
  20. Svein_Skogen

    Svein_Skogen Maha Guru

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    Anybody here know where to look for custom-equipment giving me a similar readout to the CoolIT Vantage block (listing the fluid temp, etc)? Preferrably something that can be read by the computer it is attached to.

    //Svein
     

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