Watch Dogs Kadzait24 XML Full MOD 1.0 - Check out real Ultra Graphics

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  1. brunopita

    brunopita Banned

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    It's not trolling, it's opinions. If they go against what you like, well, sorry. I tried to explain the reasons why I dislike this mod and why I think graphics won't save nor make my experience better while playing.

    Internet these days...
     
  2. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    I warned about this, the first users have been banned.
     
  3. wunkley

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    Could not agree more. The word trolling has lost its meaning these days. I think people accuse others of 'trolling' when they have a limited vocabulary and a limited mind, as they cannot understand or partake in reasoned 'argument' and counter discussion.

    The irony of all this is, when this kadzait dude releases v3, I will try it! And I'll be hoping that it improves the visuals. Why wouldn't I?

    But, if I see no tangible improvements, compared to the vanilla game at ultra, as there isn't with with v2, I will post my opinion of what I find.
     
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    Where to download such a miracle? Blasts as e3.
     

  5. Norbz

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    Opinions, right... Opinions you chose to share on a very specific topic that you are not required to follow anymore if you think it's bull****... It's like going to a catholic church, arguing about how bull**** it sounds to you as an [atheist / muslim / jewish/ wathever] and call it "opinions".

    Seriously, the whole process of testing this mods takes like 30 seconds. Instead of whinning for comparison shots or whatever, go and try it. Like it ? good, you won something today. Don't like it ? You wasted 30 seconds of your time, which is far less than the time all of you spent trolling on this...
     
  6. Gorefather

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    This. And the only thing Kadzait needs to do is investigate the 'bugs' reported and report back. Only then this thread will keep making sense.

    Not trying to bash this mod, on the contrary, I want It to work. So how does this 'unpacking' work? Anyone care to make a tutorial?
     
  7. MaLDo

    MaLDo Master Guru

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    Yeah, opinions are opinions. Facts are facts.

    Kadzait said version 2.0 includes

    Better Physics
    Bloom
    Improved HDR
    Better Textures and mapping
    Better Rain and splashes quantity
    Improved Reflections in the water and for the cars
    Better Water, Vegetation and Geometry quality
    Improved LOD and FOV
    Better colors everywhere
    Better Shadows
    Better SSAO Quality
    Improved Lighting for the entire game

    That's a fact.



    But,

    Better Physics, false

    Bloom, false

    Improved HDR, false

    Better Textures and mapping, absolutely false

    Better Rain and splashes quantity, difficult to see. I bet false.

    Improved Reflections in the water and for the cars. Higher resolution in reflections, easy change rising one value in the config file.

    Better Water, Vegetation and Geometry quality. Same than lod.

    Improved LOD and FOV, higher lod values. Easy change.

    Better colors everywhere. Higher contrast, lower brightness.

    Better Shadows. Difficult to see.

    Better SSAO Quality. False.

    Improved Lighting for the entire game. False.



    Those are facts, too.

    Obviously we need to see how improved version 3 will be. And we talk about it in the future. But talking about actual 2.0 is not trolling in any way, imo.
     
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  8. wunkley

    wunkley Master Guru

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    HALLELUJA!

    Couldn't have put it better myself. And this guy has the credentials to listen to and take heed of people.

    In case you don't know who Maldo is, he took Crysis 2 and made it look like Crysis 3 - years ago! In places, after the MaldoHD mod it's still arguably one of the best looking games ever imo.
     
  9. jootn2kx

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    Maybe its time we need to take a look for improving performance: Stuttering issues!

    As the only thing i get less stuttering is lower the textures from ultra to high

    I'm pretty sure my 2X R9 280x cards can handle this game (even in 4K) and I got those stuttering too in 1080P so it doesnt matter really

    I know ubisoft promised a update soon, but what is soon? knowing ubisoft this could take weeks/months
     
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    splashes can be modified to appear on the ground, quantity is the same though, and i think bloom was there on some shots of early v1.

    and to compare going to church with this thread actually makes a lot of sense,explains many actions of believers in this mod, with all respect to religious people.
     

  11. Maximilian89

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    you can create a mod for this game? you can do better?
     
  12. wunkley

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    Eeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrmmmmmmm....... I think Maldo could probably do a little bit better.

    (In case you've had a sarcasm lobotomy, see my post just above.)
     
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    You're kidding, right ?
     
  14. Maximilian89

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    Maldo I know him, and I know him his work, he has my utmost respect.
    My question was NOT sarcasm!
     
  15. wunkley

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    ok fair enough fella. Didn't read like that though :)
     

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    I respect your opinion, but this?

    Sorry m8, but this is real and is actually visible. You notice the difference, especially in Downtown. You can clearly see the difference also when changing the resolution values (5k > 2k).

    I agree with some values that don't have such visible differences, but overall gain is notable and we thank him for show us to such these commands that yet no one did. Much less the "THIS IS A PLACEBO HUNTERS" who naturally do nothing except criticize the work.

    Anyway, waiting the version 3.0.

    Who doesn't agree just don't use, IMO.

    Ps.: Nothing personal. :)
     
  17. LambertoKevlar

    LambertoKevlar Member Guru

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    double post,sorry
     
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  18. LambertoKevlar

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    Shadows improvements not seem so difficult to see

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  19. MaLDo

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    Shadow filter factor must be calculated for every shadow map resolution. Rising shadow map resolution, can produce mixed results if you maintain the same filter factor. Sharper shadows aren't always better shadows. Real life shadows are soft and filtered, that's why highest settings for shadows in advanced games include soft shadows filters, like AC IV. Take a look:

    http://international.download.nvidi...v-black-flag-shadow-quality-comparison-1.html

    Using xml mod 2.0, maybe you can see shadow differences about resolution (more prominent in day time gameplay), by the way, Kadzait24 claims his 2.0 version is created to shine in rainy nights, and that's why I tested in these TOD conditions to end in this type of comparison:


    https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAAAAES0/dWnih76aj8A/s1920/watch_dogs_03.jpg

    https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAAAETA/vCSMuJkMKqQ/s1920/watch_dogs_03b.jpg


    Do you know the performance difference between mod and vanilla? Do you think it's an improvement taking account that performance hit?

    So please, will be great if someone can take those shots and point to every difference apart of reflections resolution:


    https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAAAAESQ/PKsaes4wtxs/s1920/watch_dogs_00.jpg
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    Otherwise, it may be better promote the mod like "if you wait to 6pm and you put under the tram tracks, just when tram is passing, if you look to the left you'll see an extra glow." Then everyone can do a fair screenshot comparisson.






    Exactly. 28% performance hit to achieve more jagged shadows. I guess will be better if I change "difficult to see" for "difficult to see if it is an improvement". More in line with what I meant. Or you can see again the E3 2012 reveal, to note that shadows were not that sharp.
     
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  20. Kersey

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    As I've said before, the biggest differences is the Reflections and the Shadows (you will probably need to be near certain type of objects in the environment to see that, otherwise, it's not something you'd pay attention to unless you look for it). The Reflections and Contrast are the most visible thing you will notice without having to look for it. The streets almost look like mirrors sometimes when it's wet. It's the most standout thing in the mod besides car reflections.

    I also appreciate someone trying to find something and I hope it does become something, but the claim of E3 2012 should be thrown out the window for now. I hope in the near future, instead of just raising the resolution up on most things, there's more of an actual visual difference you won't have to take time and dig for.

    It's also bad that people have to get called trolls for valid opinions and observations. Most of the claims of the mod I really don't see except for what I mentioned. I won't go into details about smoke flickering since that's something that needed to be check already.
     
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