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Watch AMD E3 Next Horizon Gaming Event & Livestream - NAVI and Ryzen 3000 Announcements

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  1. lmimmfn

    lmimmfn Ancient Guru

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    Have AMD changed how they calculate TFlops or did i miss something? the 5700XT slide shows 10.14 TFlops and on wikipedia the Vega 64 XT is listed as 10.215 TFlops( single precision )
     
  2. Eastcoasthandle

    Eastcoasthandle Ancient Guru

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    Sooo...
    was Adore right?

    It's a new dawn...RED DAWN :eek:
     
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  3. XenthorX

    XenthorX Ancient Guru

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    You're deflecting, your statement was than NVENC has been proven trash for years, i just showed you're full of crap as far as latest NVENC iteration is concerned and you're changing subject back to my streaming configuration.

    While in the process adressing me like some dumb person "I hope you do understand basic ..."

    I'm done trying to have any decent mature and educated discussion with you, this is just plain pathetic.
     
  4. Stormyandcold

    Stormyandcold Ancient Guru

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    I actually like the guy who's talking about the new Radeon, despite his mind seemingly working over-time to not f*** up. He's obviously not used to this, but, is trying his best.

    As for the new RX5700XT, it looks decent and that latency thing seems really promising. However, I feel like I'd need to get two of them to get the performance I want for my next upgrade.
     
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  5. waltc3

    waltc3 Master Guru

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    Well, the only mistaken info I got was that AMD said nothing about "Ray Tracing" at all--which I consider very positive--as it's a fairly minor thing they'll have plenty of time to talk about later. I thought it was an excellent presentation! Lisa Su was pumped...more so than at Computex, imo. I'm having trouble deciding which R 3k I want--but I want the 5700XT, too, so that will narrow it down for me somewhat--$449--$50 better than I thought! Unknown quantity at this point is the mboard. I just bought a Corsair HX 850 in preparation--then again the 65W 8/16 R3k is tempting--but darn it so is the 12/24 c/t! The 16/32 c/t won't be something I'll pick up just yet. Want to keep the price narrowed to $1k, give or take a couple of hundred, if possible! All I need is the mboard, CPU and the GPU--specs on that 5700XT look really good.
     
  6. __hollywood|meo

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    the mobos are going to be a little pricey. probably the VRM stack & all the copper from the pcie4 traces i would guess

    thats nice. the entire point of the graph was showing that higher thread count enables a CPU half the price of intels to stream smoothly whereas the intel chip grinds to a halt under identical conditions. you mentioning GPU encoding methods is illogical & doesnt address or even recognize the significance of this conclusion at all.
     
  7. Eastcoasthandle

    Eastcoasthandle Ancient Guru

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    5700XT is looking real promising.
     
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  8. XenthorX

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    I mention what people are actually using to stream, not a fantasy scenario no one is using. But i'm glad it'll be now possible of course.

    People who can afford the Intel GPU can afford a 350$ capture card with 4K60FPS HDR also, which is what people really serious about gaming are doing: capture cards.
    I liked all the gameplay part which were true face to face comparison, the input lag comparison too.

    But this streaming slide was full of crap and completely disconnected to what anyone is doing.
     
  9. __hollywood|meo

    __hollywood|meo Ancient Guru

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    existence of a more ideal hardware setup doesnt change the fundamental principle underlined by the test
     
  10. Stormyandcold

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    All I need is some music production DAW benchmarks for those cpus vs intel.
     

  11. waltc3

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    I liked the card, too--the XT has > performance specs than my RX-590/480 X-fire combined! I'm going to buy one. It does bother me that the GPU companies aren't putting any talk into D3d12 multi-gpu support, though (or X-fire for older games!) Not sure why that is, actually--they are still supporting it in their drivers and it seems to function fine.
     
  12. XenthorX

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    But it certainly impacts any form of relevant conclusion you can take out of it.
     
  13. asturur

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    Amd did not fail to deliver.
    The said that they would be back in high end gaming later, and i do no think they meant with navi.

    Also they secured next round of playstation and xbox.
    That means that multiplatform games will be somehow wrote for that kind of architecture.
    They are delivering decent product so far.

    Is also a bit disappointing seeing people with intel cpu series 8+ saying that `nah i won't upgrade`.
    No you can't upgrade, at those levels difference are minimal and your 8700k is still good for 2-3 years, and also the 1070ti or 1080ti or 1080.

    I mean guys, really the fanboysm and trolling last 2 years got to extreme levels.
     
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    GN states that the 3950X was hitting 5.35GHz all cores using MSI GodLike MB...woha..

    Supports 3600MHz ram natively without issue.
     
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    all these pictures that need to be re-aquired from high quality video stream because the share is ruining their quality.
     

  16. lmimmfn

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    3950X :)
    Decent overclock, maybe 4.6 all core on air/AIO?
     
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    Come on man be transparent. That was on LN2. This is how misinformation gets spread. He was saying the 12 core part clocked higher too on LN2.
     
  18. Eastcoasthandle

    Eastcoasthandle Ancient Guru

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    i need to stop reading and wait for the deep dive on the architecture, I want an agner fog level analysis of the design.
     
  20. __hollywood|meo

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    i chose my words very carefully. a principle doesnt allow room for a subjective conclusion to be drawn, it stands on its own as a law. the law established is that when straining the CPU, increasing thread count allows you to multitask in the absence of dedicated third-party hardware. in this example, if you want to begin to extrapolate beyond this principle then your assertion needs to, at its core, recognize wats been clearly established.

    your statement doesnt do this. the issue isnt whether or not you can stream with performance within watever margin you deem acceptable...while using your GPU, or a capture card. its that someone who bought a $1k intel processor doesnt have the option to CPU encode under strenuous conditions, which is frankly absurd
     
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