VMWare will charge double licensing fees for CPUs with more than 32 cores

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    sverek Ancient Guru

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    Yeah, kinda makes sense when you got consumers having more cores in single CPU than 2 Intel CPUs systems combined.

    Intel: Hey, that's nice AMD vm you got there, how many cores in it?
    AMD: Yes.
     
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    What an Intelligent move right there, VMWare.
    Really now, really?
     
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    umeng2002 Master Guru

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    Just switch software. If your organization isn't that nimble, you deserve to pay whatever VMWare decides you pay.
     

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    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    It not that easy sometimes. Most enterprise things I've touched were ESXi or VMware.
    This topic comes often , and people are reluctant to the change itself.
    What serious enterprise level alternative you suggest? Let's discuss, just for academic purposes.
     
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    Intel also have 56core cpus so it effects both chipmakers.
     
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    alanm Ancient Guru

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    They looked at open-source virtualbox which can do max 32 cores, so decided to double charge for anything above that.
     
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    Yeah, Intel will be bleeding money.
    Data centers is where the war is being waged right now.
    We all know how has most cores and more to lose.
     
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    What a coincidence .... :(

    First they had a license model as any other company, then they changed to "per-socket" licensing, now it's "per-core".

    My guess the next one will be "per-logical-core", so a 32core with HT will need to have 64 cores licensed.

    But same goes for Oracle and MS SQL as well, so "no big deal" at all. It's still frustrating to say the least, but no breaking news.
     
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    From a business point i can understand this move but feels a little "cheap"...
     

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    $LIGHTLY GR€€DY?
     
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    That's a Karen move, VMWare.
    Say, I saw you yesterday morning having coffee with your best friend, Intel.
    /joke mode off
     
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    The only other options I can think of for any decently sized enterprise is Microsoft's Hyper-V and Citrix’s XenServer.
     
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    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    It could work in Hyper-V favour.
    But also Xen as they comunity XPC NG edition is praised to be best thing in last years as an substitute for VMware.
     
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    As dumb as it is, I understand why they're doing this. 32+ core CPUs in a single socket are heavily eating into VMWare's sales. However, since most systems that would use such CPUs are likely going to be fresh new ones (rather than upgrades), I suspect VMware will be losing money since those potential customers will be switching to a less greedy service.
     

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    Here is amd gaining.

    With theyr core number being a clean multiple of 32 , you do not wast a license.
    With a 2 socket 28 core cpus, you get to need 2 licenses, while you could you a 2 socket 32 core cpus from AMD. 8 core more.
     
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    What? like have more cores per cpu, changes things for them, they just want to charge more
     
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    it change for them because since this year is possible build with one socket what before required usually 4 socket.
    Or 2 servers, so they sell less licenses.
     
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    Not at all Intel will be penalised too as next gen CPU will have lot of core too.

    This decision is stupid, it's like we have to pay actual car with the price indexed on the HP of the race car from early last century... imagine the price of an asmathic entry level Honda Civic that have more HP than the 1st racecar ???

    It's the same logic.
    VMWare is just using it's position on the market to try earning some more money and have found a way to do it... That's all
     
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