" but these drivers are crap regardless, as are all the 400 series" Well all the drivers AFTER the 416.94s seem crap tbh. This goes for my old EVGA 1080ti FTW 3. And now its the same for my EVGA 2080 FTW 3 Ultra. The 419.17s don`t look as good visually, nor do they feel as good performancewise. How is this even possible? I`m sticking to the 416.94s till a decent driver arrives for my 2080 FTW Ultra.