Vehicles of Guru3D thread #2

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  1. MM10X

    MM10X Ancient Guru

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    I completely agree they're probably great at a higher speed track, 70-120mph(never been on a track...), but in lower speed conditions on backroads (40-70mph) it loves to take you off cliffs.

    As my fathers car is a completely stock setup, I can't say much for how well they tune. I'm sure you could tweak a few suspension parts to tame them up in the low speed.

    And yes I so much wish I could have that gearbox in everything! that close ratio 6 is just perfect.
     
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    RX-7 fd 93-2002 would be one of those cars that are really really good to drive.
     
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    Was the car you drove an AP1 or an AP2? The AP1's are notorious for twichyness that is why I said the 2.2l AP2 as they redesigned the rear geometry and changed the tire sizes to make the car more apt to push at the limit rather than suddenly kick sideways. Another thing to remember is tire choice is very important on any sports car a set of economy tires on an S2K will not impress you but throw some Bridgestone RE-11's on there and now your in business.

    Problem is finding one I have never driven one but I would imagine they are very similar to the MX-5 seeing as they are about the same size and are very close to 50/50.
     
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    Thanks :)

    I'm definitely planning on getting a classic policy when it's back on the road - any recommendations?

    Heard good things about B6's on there - I'd probably go for T16S springs as they slightly lower / stiffer, but I'm planning on keeping it 100% road car, both in terms of setup and ride quality. What your experience of the B6's?

    My daily is a Saab 9000 CS that I bagged for the winter. Nice car, but the 900 is much more fun. Planning on shifting the 9000 when the 900 is back on the road...

    The Fiat looks gorgeous. Is that 330bhp on standard internals? Must absolutely fly! How does it stack up against the Seat in the handling stakes?
     

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    You never asked ;)

    It was a sensible choice for commuting 200 miles a week, it has halved my fuel bills since using it instead of the rotary.

    It takes a lot of abuse and it's quite quick with ~260bhp. Once I fixed all the usual mk4 Golf platform leaks it's even dry inside now too!

    Still needed something quick for the commute, reason being there's lots of sales kiddies at work who think their cars are quick and I need to be able to outdrag them when required. :D
     
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    No problem, looking after older cars should be encouraged!

    I get my insurance through a specialist broker. I will look up who I'm actually with later on.

    I have B6 and Eibach Pro-Kit springs on the Coop. It's not that they're bad but I would prefer something softer perhaps I'm getting old. Then again most stuff these days caters towards large wheels and hard suspension.

    It is on standard internals, supposedly the limit is around 350 before going forged but it's an element of luck once you get to that sort of area. It does go very well and sounds epic.

    Handling wise neither is standard but in terms of grip the Fiat has a proper diff, the Seat doesnt it has some electronic bull****tery that has no effect so in the damp I am spinning the wheels in 3rd in the Seat and on track it will light the inside wheel up with the DSC off. With it on it just cuts the power which is annoying. The map is pretty aggressive on that thing though. Fiat has great traction all around, also has a Whiteline ARB at the back to help turn in and it's just beautiful.
     
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    Getting myself one next year from 2000+ batch from japan :p fun times incoming. Yeah kinda similar just with way more power ^^ the latest ones have bit over 300hp, 276 as japanese have to tell it is but they have bit more.
     
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    Just not a big fan of the rotary motor if I could ge ahold of a FD I would throw a LS1 in that beast in a heart beat they don't even mess up the balance of the car as the engines weigh almost the exact same amount but all that power at the slightest twitch of your big toe.
     
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    Yeah, I've learned to appreciate superchargers for that reason.
    Turbo lag is tedious when you're on and off the gas a lot.
    You end up compensating with early throttle, and it adds another layer of crap to keep in check.
    It's great when you can just touch the gas and the power is just there already.

    -scheherazade
     
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    Yeah rotary engines are bit funky so i know people tend to get LS1 there. I'd rather take 20b engine in there but will settle for latest revs of 13b since those won't flood as easily but still need to be careful and the apex seals are bit better too. Tho easier to take apart and rebuilt then traditional engines with valves :D
     

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    I strongly debated an rx8 but with the seals and the oil consumption (but mostly the terrible gas mileage) I decided just to buy a mazda3 again (4th one)
     
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    For the power they produce the MPG is shocking! Handling is fantastic though. Bit soft for the track but ideal for the road. I loved mine but 3 things bothered me about it - MPG, power/torque & how rich it runs on a cold start. Had it for 3 years nothing went wrong but I know they're hotly debated on the interwebz. :p
     
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    I suppose it depends on what you're after - the non-linear power delivery is a lot of fun IMO :)

    Obviously a car putting down the same numbers without any lag would be faster, but there's something quite satisfying about getting the most out of a turbo car.

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    Let me add a few more adjectives to this statement, I would add impractical, scary, dangerous, and debilitating. Can you tell I'm not a fan of turbos (at least not in a road race type situation). While I can agree they are awesome in a strait line boost coming on suddenly in corner is trouble and the turbo lag if you have to make a throttle correction is infuriating. Now I know with turbo technology now that lag has been reduced considerably in fact my friends 600whp Evo8 gets full boost at 3500rpm (its a 2.4L with 10:1 on e85 26psi) but if you lift it still has to build the boost back up.
     

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    This post makes me want to get my turbo motor running even more.

    Sounds like some good old dangerous fun. :stewpid:


    Cant wait to swap in a welded diff for some mad skids.
     
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    Perhaps if you had a RWD monster with lots of power coming on very aggressively, a very unforgiving setup and no TC of any kind you may have this problem. But for the average old skool laggy turbo car you are very unlikely to end up in a hedge if you come on boost around a corner. Sounds fun anyway.
     
  18. MM10X

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    I think he just has a heavy right foot.


    Or the only turbo car he's driven was a 5.0 foxbody race car. :eyes:
     
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    Nope just prefer the lineir predictable power delivery of a NA or supercharged car. BTW what would you have a turbo car with less than 400bph anyways, and RWD is the only way to race FWD push too much and tend to be twitchy and unpredictable on the edge and AWD tends to add unneeded weight and can push as well.
     
  20. MM10X

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    Becuse most of us don't have the money to build a block and head capable of supporting 400bhp.


    I'm aiming about 130whp on my 2 liter 4cyl N/A car and about 230-250whp on my 2.8 liter 6cyl turbo car.
     
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