Valve getting into the hardware business

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  1. ericdrum

    ericdrum Member Guru

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    I can't help but wonder why you would want keyboard and mouse to change at all

    Edit: I love how half the comments are people raging over the lack of EP3/HL3 news hahahaha, valve time
     
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    Why would you change the mouse and keyboard? Unless you're going to make it like the Wii controller.
     
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    I really want pressure sensitive keys "WASD" to enable walking slow and running without holding shift, and that could be turned off if it interfered.
     
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    I could see Ubisoft admitting to the world that piracy really isnt as much of a problem as they are letting people to believe before Valve would ever release HL3. :p
     
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    Kudos to Valve. They truly are the unique company, and I wouldn't be surprised if they come up with something new and refreshing.

    For decades we are using the same peripheral crap(controllers), or even worse (displays).

    Looking at you too Mr. John Carmack.
     
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    There is a reason why we have used these controllers for the last few decades, because they work. It isn't because their is a lack of alternatives because their is, touch screens, motion controllers, even gloves that allow you to control devices with one hand but the mouse and keyboard have stuck around because they work.

    I doubt Valve will bring anything new or ground breaking to the market. Lets face it if the folk who day to day week to week have a job that is nothing but peripheral design can't come up with something new then a I doubt a software company with zero hardware experience is going to be able to do it.
     
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    I'm sure they will come up with something, whether it will take off is another story.

    I too, wouldn't mind some sort of pressure sensitive keyboard, it's perfect when it comes to computing, but not for gaming.
    Not sure how well an "analog" one would work, or if it would work at all, but the keyboard is more about quantity over quality and the weak point compared to a mouse which likely can't be improved upon when it comes to gaming.
     
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    So, is this what they have saved Half Life 3 for?
     
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    Then again... maybe dedicated peripheral dudes can't think outside the box

    [​IMG]

    And yeah, of course mouse has been working great, but is that really it?
    No room for improvement? Don't think so.
    Graphics has been bringing diminishing returns since forever. And that's to say diminishing returns on graphics itself. If you look at the overall experience gains are miniscule.

    So it's a gdamn time to attack the problem from some other angle, like controllers and VR displays
     
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    The most Valve will come up with will be their own hardware designed versions of what we already have.

    No doubt they will hope to sell something new and different on the back that they are Valve and as such everything they do must be made of 100% pure champion nuts. Who knows maybe having something fail hard on them might knock them back on course, we may even see HL3.
     
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    Right. What confuses me about their statement is that TONS of companies have had the opportunity to build something new that hooks up to the USB ports on our computers and give us something better. Why haven't they? Because as it turns out KB/M is pretty damn effective. And I'm not one of those guys who never uses a controller. I like controllers for some games much more than KB/M. But when it comes to shooting dudes in the face, I'd love for them to come up with something better than the trusty ole mouse. I'd use it immediately if it was better. It's just that I doubt you can come up something more practical and better. I welcome them to try and I'll be eagerly watching.
     
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    2012 called, it says that touchscreens are teh shizzle right now.
     
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    Umm...force feedback keyboard and mouse anyone? :wanker::banana:
     
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    This! I'm using pedals for WS (walking, running and jumping) but support for pressure sensitive controls for every game would be great. And of course keyboards that support it too.
     

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    Nobody wants a touch screen on their desktops.
     
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    I know I don't.

    While I do like it on my phone because it is obviously the most convenient way of working on that device, the sanitary part of it disgusts me.

    Mouse and keyboard just work so well, accuracy, versatility. I hate any type of computer assisted aiming help, may as well have the computer play the god damn game for me at that point.
     
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    Yep.

    And pressure sensitive keyboard keys.
     
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    The keyboard is clearly the weak link, but the problem is that if you change it too much to improve it from a gaming point of view, then it might become a poor device for typing, and I don’t think people would want to have a keyboard for gaming, and another one for everything else.

    I would like to see a keyboard with a large slide out touchscreen so it can be hidden away to keep it in good nick, but pulled out for games so you can view and control maps and things like inventory, similar to the Wii-U.
    It could also be useful for day to day Windows tasks, but it would also likely be expensive.
     
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    Anything Valve speaks of I take with a grain of salt and add 3 years to the date. So if they're getting into the hardware business, I assume we will see their first products in 2015. Late 2015.
     

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