Discussion in 'The Guru's Pub' started by ScaryClown, Jun 18, 2010.
Sinking to his level? lol
no one can sink to his level no way.Btw what does it say about me cause I don't know I believe people like Manson should be put up on the wall and shot not be kept in prison milking the system.you should know that no one can sink to his level dude there's no way he is gone and out of his mind and letting him live is a danger to society hell just watch this video of his time in a interview. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uhmtAmwnDQ
Well let me play devil's advocate, Manson never physically killed anyone. He ordered others to kill, much like what the justice system does, as well as some on this forum would do, order others to kill(State vs Manson in this case). So is taking a life with malice aforethought paramount to murder, even though someone else does the bidding? I argue it could be seen that way & apparently the courts agree since Manson has been jailed. So morally & legally, what's difference who pulls the trigger when your the one calling for his death. That indeed would be sinking to his level, would it not?
Motive is what makes murder, not the act of killing.
Couldn't have said it better.
There is a lot of bitterness in many of you here and you havent even tasted what war,famine,death and fear is like.
They probably load blanks in some rifles, but if there were 5 shooters, probably there was only 1 blank. its just to give the sensation to each individual shooter that maybe he was the one that shoot the blank shot, that way is easier to not feel guilty about it.
I think this Kind of execution is more human than using Lethal Gas or Lethal Injection, not even to talk about Electric chair. But some killers should have a even more painful execution, for all the pain they have made to others, witch is something that cannot be repaired.
It makes me feel sick when i hear people talking about why is bad to execute murders, they just Avoid directly to speak about the crimes they made and they just go by saying that they are human beings, Ofcourse they are human beings, we are not stupid god damn, but What about all the people that died on the hands of those depraved and vicious bastards? Some were serial killers that tortured, raped and killed children's. that kind of people deserves to be tortured for at least 1 year, and then get burn to dead or electrified. and if noone wants to feel bad about doing it, lets just make a machine to do it for us, Im sure that you can build a machine with a IA to make the Perfect tortures.
The moment these people take other lives, particularly multiple times on purpose, or rape or violate other people, and especially children.... they've lost what human rights they had in my opinion.
Those things just aren't tolerated in my eye.
O course that is not tolerable,that is why we remove them from society and place them in prison.
We do it not out of a kindness for them,we do it to protect ourselves.
Im glad there is no death penalty where i live.
I think i'd also choose the firing squad. Might as well go out with a bang. I don't get why it gets bad publicity.... i mean whats wrong with it? It seems fair, and it seems fair to the shooters, you could figure, hey my bullet maybe wasn't the one who killed him.
I don't get why people would be against it.
Yeah makes sense what about the people that have been executed and then found innoncent eh? where is there justice?
so not only would you heavily increase the injustice of having people killed for crimes they may of not committed but you didnt even think of it :3eyes:
People in prison are treated better than people in the community and people who are suffering.
They have roast dinners, pay TV. They're turning into a holiday destination. Not like the Prisons of old.
There aren't tougher punishments. All these people who murder all these people get 5 years or 10 years, then released, and Pedophiles are worse, they go in for a few years, then get released straight back into society next to a school again. And they expect them to not do the same again.
OK then there should be automated robots who can execute people convicted to death, so that you remove the human interaction from the process. I can live with a killer being executed by a robot, at least you do not need a human to kill him, making the executioner as bad as the convicted killer.
And one more thing about the victim's relatives of a death sentenced convict. They are so pathetic if they wish the death to him from their hearts. They are just as bad as he is, they have that urge to kill him for doing this, yet they need the legal system to do it for them. And when they see him dead, they do not feel better at all. OK the killer is dead, that does not bring your loved one back, and you just witnessed a man dieing, wow.. call that a rested conscience?
Have you been to a prison that you know this stuff? :3eyes: I don't know, i would not consider living between rapists, thieves and mad men a good environment. Also getting orders from guards etc... but on the other side, it is kinda the same when you are "free"
Go to a russian prison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9d2k1DIbEU&has_verified=1 you wont do anything again lol
Well as long as those beaten are murderers/rapists and such I don't feel much remorse for them, what worries me however is the mental stability of the guards in that prison, they certainly enjoy what they do. It just shows how savage humans still are, and not just in Russia.
I agree- from what was said by reports it does sound far less brutal than the other methods of execution used- and I am not for brutality, If your going to remove someone from the world I don't agree with un-necisary suffering.
Living between other low life and scum that they were probably living in the outside world with to begin with? Plus all the luxury items. Not to mention they have all kinds of people come in to socialise with anyway. Soccer matches (I know because friends go down to them and play against in-mates), bands and god knows what else.
Yea right, sounds like a hard place.
Meanwhile, there are people starving in the world that don't know where their next meal comes from, are dieing from diseases, yet society doesn't give a flying @#$% about them.
How is that right? We spend more on prisoners luxury items that could be going to help these people who are in need. Yet we reward criminals. Yep, sounds real fair.
That's the trouble with this world, you get rewarded for doing the wrong thing, because "People have rights"
Compeltely agree, the sooner they are executed the less money they waste, that the goverment could have used for schooling and healthcare?
we arnt protecting any one by placing them in prison we are just putting more lives in danger even though the guys in prison are criminals they deserve to be protected by these manic murderer's as well even though they broke laws but they did not commit any murders(only talking bout the criminals that are in for other crimes besides murder)people who murder others for stupid reasons and no other reason besides that they are insane need to be executed for every one's safety.man dad is also a firm believer in death row and he was born and raised in the queens of new york in the 60's,and 70's and he know more about fear then most.
I don't want to get into the ins and outs of the death penalty (which I support if there is 100% evidence DNA etc.), but I've never understood why Ameica takes like 20 years just to kill someone, could someone explain, also I'd rather have firing squad than lethal injection.