Updates From Guru3D Folders

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  1. Mr.Bigtime

    Mr.Bigtime Ancient Guru

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    i took back another mobo from the guys, they gave me problem about GIVING back the previous case i bought from them. they insisted about they will give me a new one but similar case..i insisted abouta another case a new model..and i bought a new case and here iam at home and ready to FOLD..but lemme game for a while :D
     
  2. iancook221188

    iancook221188 Ancient Guru

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    hey ghost the 465 should fold alot better than the 280 it should put out 12-14k ppd
     
  3. Ghost15

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    Good to know, but if I recall I'll need to give up a core of my i7 to keep it happy. Wonder how that is going to effect my SMP numbers, mine are barely higher than yours even though you are doing smp -11

    Also, the card *Should* arrive tomarrow, and let me get my i7 up again :pc1:
     
  4. iancook221188

    iancook221188 Ancient Guru

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    ive had a few problems gettin it to work, what i do is run bigadv on smp11 and normal smp A3 on smp10 it look like the newer gpu3 project are using less cpu cycles the 6911 use next to nothing so i was able to use smp12 and got a boost
    lucky recently the has bin non stop bigadv so there has been no hassle at all
     

  5. brazen

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    Sorry ...

    Haven't been folding in ages. Been moving, kids got the spare PC, so I won't be folding until I get a fresh rig for it. :(
     
  6. J_J_B

    J_J_B Member Guru

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    iancook:

    How many points (including bonus) do you see when folding P6900 (bigadv) using smp11? Also, what is the PPD for that SMP2 client?

    Myself, I'm seeing approx 73500 points while folding on smp7 at a rate of 31300 PPD. This is with my i7 running at 4.1 GHz.

    I anticipate ordering two GTX-580 HC cards soon so I could be folding on 3 GPUs (two 580s and one 480) within this system. I know I'll need to fall back to smp6 or even smp5 to do this so I'm running some production tests at these levels now. I'll post the results on a new thread for informational purposes. The tests will help determine if I'll be better off not folding on the 480. If that is the case, my 480 HC will be nothing more than a ridculously over-the-top PhysX processor going forward.
     
  7. iancook221188

    iancook221188 Ancient Guru

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    no worry brazen fold what you can when you can:)
     
  8. iancook221188

    iancook221188 Ancient Guru

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    well im seeing 88k on the 6900 and 52k-54k ppd, you can put 2 gpu3 client on one thread/core so smp7 would be good, is there any where else that 480 can go unless you need it with the 580s you could go down to smp6 but you could not do bigadv any more

    i don't no what smp5/6 will do on normal A3 work units about 11k on your 4.1 overclock maybe

    soon helpfully the gpu3 work unit will not take as much cpu cycles but that in the future

    hope this help Mr.B
     
  9. PantherX

    PantherX Folding@Home Team Leader Staff Member

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    Well brazen, the "bright" side is that you need a new rig, so you could always look forward to Sandy Bridge LGA1155 or LGA2011, depending on when you plan to get a new rig :)
     
  10. J_J_B

    J_J_B Member Guru

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    Thanks for the data iancook!

    I've tested with smp6 and that seems to fold plenty fast enough for bigadv. There's only a reduction of 4500 PPD and 3820 bonus points on the project overall. I'll have some numbers for smp5 within the next 2 hours and will post all results at that time.

    I might need some additional power to do this. If I want to mount a second PSU inside the case my only solution would be to move at least one radiator outside the case, unless I can a find a small PSU of non-standard proportions with 6 and/or 8-pin PCIe PEG cables.

    <EDIT: or sell the two 1200 PSUs I have now and pick up a 1600 watt one... would have to hang out the back of the case though>
     
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  11. iancook221188

    iancook221188 Ancient Guru

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    didn't think it would be under the dead line but then again you are running at 4.1 so that could be some interesting data about smp5/6

    there are 5.25 bay power supply out there up 600w just got to do your research
     
  12. brazen

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    Thanks, Ian. But I need to get back for the cause you know.

    DON'T YOU START FEEDING THIS ADDICTION!

    * Caps intended. :)
     
  13. J_J_B

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    I'll just post the results here...

    My Core i7 965 is running at 4.1 GHz and I saw the following SMP2 results while folding P6900 (bigadv). My DDR3 memory is running at 1600 MT/s. The CPU utilitization readings are approximate since I also had a virtual machine running in the background throughout all tests (where I conduct business). The system wattage readings are also very approximate, bouncing around +- 15 watts and at the mercy of the meter (in)accuracy. I also had a GTX-480 folding a P6811 work unit throughout these tests:

    Folding on 5 CPU threads (-smp 5):
    23654.8 PPD_____66830 Points_____61% CPU Utilization_____715 watts

    Folding on 6 CPU threads (-smp 6):
    26858.2 PPD_____69726 Points_____73% CPU Utilization_____735 watts

    Folding on 7 CPU threads (-smp 7):
    31317.8 PPD_____73546 Points_____85% CPU Utilization_____750 watts

    I began these tests while running with smp7 and wrote down the readings for that test towards the end of a WU. The smp6 and smp5 readings took place within the first 8% of completion of a fresh WU. The current smp5, with WU completion at 8%, indicates that the WU will be completed with about 27 hours to spare.

    If I use a 5.25" bay power supply as iancook mentioned (thanks for reminding that these exist!), I am hopefull that I'll be able to fold on two 580s and the single 480 at smp6.

    Now EVGA just needs to make more 580 HCs available. I missed ordering two last evening before the EVGA E-mail notifications went out because my fat fingers couldn't navigate the tiny screen of my blackberry.
     
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  14. Ghost15

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    Hey, I might be able to help give you a few numbers. While I was out, my i7 (4/8) core system at 3.8GHz picked up 2 6900's as well.

    Name: Server
    Number of Frames Observed: 200

    Min. Time / Frame : 00:32:03 - 33,942.6 PPD
    Avg. Time / Frame : 00:33:16 - 32,097.6 PPD


    My 980x at 4.25GHz:

    Name: MainBox
    Number of Frames Observed: 292

    Min. Time / Frame : 00:21:51 - 60,299.0 PPD
    Avg. Time / Frame : 00:23:31 - 54,003.7 PPD
     
  15. J_J_B

    J_J_B Member Guru

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    Just wanted to thank iancook for reminding me that 5.25" power bays exist... I installed one of these VisionTek 450W auxillary PSUs yesterday and it is working well:
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...CODE=GOOGLEBASE&cm_mmc_o=VRqCjC7BBTkwCjCECjCE

    The awefull vinyl "VisionTek" label can be peeled off the front to leave a black brushed aluminum surface (matches my Obsidian 800D case). There are two 30-mm (?) fans pushing air in from the front and one pulling air out the back (into the PC case). They aren't the quietest little things, but don't seem to be much louder than the two Laing DDC 3.25 pumps mounted just above them.

    It has two 8-pin (6+2) and two 6-pin PEG connectiors for providing up to 450 watts of video power. There is one 12-volt rail which is divided into a V1 and V2, each able to provide up to 20 amps. I'm using the 8-pin PEG from V1 and the 6-pin PEG from V2 to drive my 480. This frees up the PEG connectors on V1 through V4 of my 1200-watt PSU for driving the 580 cards, to be ordered once available.

    This auxillary PSU powers itself up when it detects power on a 4-pin molex connector from the main PSU, which simply plugs into the rear of the unit.
     

  16. iancook221188

    iancook221188 Ancient Guru

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    :thumbup: good good hope to see your rig in the folding rig pic very soon JJB ;)
     
  17. J_J_B

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    Will post pics once the 580s have been installed and tested! I might need a second pump on the GPU loop since 3 cards, two XSPC RX120 rads, and one XSPC RX240 rad will likely present some flow rate issues. There is a small space left in the case to mount it if so. Also need to trim excess tubing lengths on both water loops to neaten things up.

    One thing I forgot to mention with the VisionTek... the PEG connectors are blue and the cables themselves are transparent with silver metal braids inside. Does not go well with the black theme I have going. The connectors will be getting a thin coat of matte-black Rust-Oleum and the cables a shot of black vinyl die.
     
  18. J_J_B

    J_J_B Member Guru

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    EVGA had a temporarily surplus of 580 hydro coppers last evening... the "buy it" button remained up for a whole 75 minutes rather than the norm of 5! Was able to order two. I'll need to drain the system for these installs so I'm taking the opportunity to install a second pump on the GPU loop rather than risk finding out that my flow rate with the 480+580+580 is too low.

    I'll be thoroughly burning these cards in next week so my rig will likely be out of commission folding-wise Wednesday through the following Monday. I'll be removing some cables for painting too, which will need to dry over the weekend.
     
  19. Ghost15

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    Very nice! I've been wanting to intergrate my next 'big gpu buy' with my water cooling, i've heard you can really OC 580's once water cooled
     
  20. J_J_B

    J_J_B Member Guru

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    A second pump on my GPU cooling loop was definately needed with the 3 GPUs connected in series. Problem is, the DDC 3.25 pumps come with very inadequate barbs. The other pump in my GPU circuit is mounted to an XSPC reservoir with G1/4 fittings so that is not an issue. This additional pump keeps springing leaks at the tubing on its outlet port due to the back pressure caused by the cards. I have an XSPC acetal top for this pump on the way (Monday or Tuesday delivery) which will provide G1/4 threaded sockets into which I can fit 1/2" barbed Bitspower fittings, as are used throughout the rest of the system. Only then will I trust this cooling loop again. The Danger Den SLI cross fittings work well. I would have preferred to use small lengths of tubing but the clearances between cards would not have allowed it (not even enough room for normal fittings).

    I was able to do a 20-minute folding test on all 3 GPUs before a small leak sprang due to the 3/8" ID tubing at the pump becoming too pliable with the heat. The 480 was running at 900-MHz and the two 580s were running at their default clock of 850 MHz. The coolant reached 40 C while the GPU cores reached 49, 49, and 51 (the old GTX-480 was the one at 51). Combined PPD was just over 50,000. I was not running the SMP2 client since I don't want to exceed the deadline on a WU while waiting for parts.

    I'm probably going to need to tone back my overclock of the 480 to reduce heat. Either that or turn the case fans up to max, which is not out of the question. Even at 100%, the eight 120-mm fans are quieter than the few I had in my old system.

    I also ran 3D Mark Vantage with the 480 set as the PhysX processor. I only ran the Extreme profile since that was what I had recorded before. Here are the results for comparison to my previous runs of this benchmark:

    Core i7 965 @ 3.8, two GTX-295 cards in quad-fire SLI (early 2009):
    X17335 (GPU: 16754, CPU: 50820)

    Core i7 965 @ 4.1, GTX-480:
    X11691 (GPU: 11203, CPU: 67983)

    Core i7 965 @ 4.1, GTX-580 cards in SLI, GTX-480 set as PhysX processor
    X26242 (GPU: 25441, CPU: 65245)

    It stinks having to wait and not being able to see the points increasing on my Blackberry. I'm kind of addicted to that statistics shortcut.
     
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