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Unprotected version of Final Fantasy XV loads faster

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    The unprotected version of Final Fantasy XV runs better than the Steam version. For this comparison dso gaming used an Intel i7 4930K (overclocked at 4.2Ghz) with 8GB RAM, NVIDIA’s GTX980Ti,...

    Unprotected version of Final Fantasy XV loads faster
     
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  2. Neo Cyrus

    Neo Cyrus Ancient Guru

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    I have a feeling even if it's confirmed and verified Square Enix will never remove Denuvo. They've never done it in the past and they don't even patch severely broken games like Nier Automata. They just expect people to use community mods to fix it. I'm shocked that SE released any patch at all for FF15, even if it was for a game break bug that was easy for them to repair.
     
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    rl66 Ancient Guru

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    About Nier Automata the last update correct nearly everything, exept the keyboard control (but it's a console port... and i have a pad, so i don't care too much)... very good game.

    and yes square enix don't like patching :)
     
  4. Neo Cyrus

    Neo Cyrus Ancient Guru

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    There is no Nier update? I don't see a single patch listed. The only update listed in Steam for it is an AMD driver update...
     

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    Fox2232 Ancient Guru

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    Not surprising. Adding directory where I have all compilers and tools into exception for Windows Anti-virus makes it work like 10 times faster.
     
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    scatman839 Ancient Guru

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    Yep, there is no update, DLC was released.

    also durante did a piece on this that also showed denuvo screwed a bit with load times

     
  7. Netherwind

    Netherwind Ancient Guru

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    Which patch?
     
  8. fOrTy_7

    fOrTy_7 Master Guru

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    I'm glad that someone made this kind of comparison, but the test itself is not very reliable.
    For starters tests system has only 8GB of RAM, which might be insufficient for a recent AAA game, therefore a lot of paging could happen.
    PC should be rebooted before every game launch to avoid Windows File Caching.
    They could have used graphs in Afterburner to better represent FPS and CPU load over time.
    If they noticed unusual HDD activity they could use tools like Process Monitor to actually see what
    this HDD activity is. Denuvo was accused some time ago for constantly writing to SSD resulting in lower life span.
    Also running a prerecorded demo or in-game benchmark would give more consistent and comparable results.
     
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    Webhiker Master Guru

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    The pirated version runs fine with 8 GB of ram. This is just a load test not a benchmark test.
     
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    Angantyr Master Guru

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    Guess the Steam API implementation has been done badly, it certainly isn't doing it any favors.
     

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    vbetts Don Vincenzo Staff Member

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    Not to get off topic but 8gb is still fine, even if you have to pagefile some memory...Not a big deal.
     
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    Razoola Member Guru

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    Nothing surprising here for me. I remember the same thing happen when comparing the Steam version against the unsteamed unprotected version of 'Half Life 2' many years ago. The same story.... The unprotected version loaded quicker and played with less stuttering than the paid version. It was so bad that even though I bought the game, I only played it using the unprotected version for a better gaming experiance.
     
  13. BlueRay

    BlueRay Master Guru

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    Denuvo doesn't impact performance at all. It has already been debunked.
    It's another thing to not like online DRMs because of their limitations and another thing to accuse something without any data just because you can't pirate it the moment you want.
    Steam API is to blame for the overhead that it adds for the PC version and there is already a mod for that called Special K in the Steam community.
    It indeed makes game load faster. Denuvo has nothing to do with it.
     
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    vbetts Don Vincenzo Staff Member

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    But....The video proves it Denuvo does increase the load times?
     
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    Denial Ancient Guru

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    I'm at work so I can't watch the video but reading the article makes it sound like the guy does an A:B test between the game running on steam with dunevo enabled vs pirated (not on steam) with denuvo removed. The takeaway makes it sound like denuvo is 100% behind the increased loadtimes whereas BlueRay is saying that it's not dunevo but because steam isn't running in the pirated version.
     
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  16. BlueRay

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    Durante already proved Denuvo doesn't impact performance.
    The loading times are because the Steam API causes many drawcalls and thus hampering performance.
    There is already a mod in the Steam Community that fixes this (Special K).
    There is nothing here and we should stop beating a dead horse.
    Denuvo DRM has nothing to do with loading times.
    We can discuss about how online DRMs are a bad policy but we should't discuss and spread urban legends.
    Check steam for Special K if you own the game in Steam and want better loading times.
     
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    airbud7 Ancient Guru

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    the Pirate game is faster!....Looooool....:D
     
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    tsunami231 Ancient Guru

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    and another game DRM that run s better with it gone
     
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    Reddoguk Ancient Guru

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    Makes sense that it would load faster since there's no DRM being loaded. Does that make it better? no it just means buyers will get longer load times than pirates.

    I'd take slower load times any day over risking using a torrented game.
     

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