UK may store all phone calls and emails

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  1. Guru3D News

    Guru3D News Ancient Guru

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  2. Cybermancer

    Cybermancer Don Quixote

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    Have you read 2600 (Vol.25, #1)? :D

    The question is though, do those directives,acts, bills, etc. actively help to reduce terrorism or crime?
    I don't think so. From 2600 (Vol.25, #1, page 51): "The German Federal Criminal Office calculated that the rate of solved crimes will only rise by 0.006 percent at best by using retained data."

    Since terrorists know that communications are being recorded/monitored most likely they will simply avoid it. Just think about proxies, VPNs, prepaid cellphones, internet cafes, etc..

    This is more an invasion into our privacy than it is a tool to catch criminals or terrorists.

    IMHO. ;)
     
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    Smellybumlove Master Guru

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    of course your right, the truth is its another step closer to controling the population.

    we have been slowly changing into a big brother state which is a big reason why i had to move away, i cant bring my family up in such a society.

    i dont want to sound like a guy in a tin foil hat but the powers that be really want to just use us as puppets for their own gains, most of this terrorist stuff is all fabricated anyway to fool the general population so this can be done.

    god i could go on but i think you get my point, pack your bags and come over to asia where its all jungles and earthquakes :D .
     
  4. Steven Hone

    Steven Hone Paolo the Gun

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    I am glad the first responses here seem to show that we are not all allowing ourselves to become puppets :)
     

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    Cybermancer Don Quixote

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    LOL

    Well, I'm following developments in the USA and Germany (German, currently living in the USA) and don't know which ones are worse, to tell you the truth. It's just frightening to me that most people don't realize what's going on or just ignore it. What I don't get is that experts always highlight that those measures aren't helping to make us any safer. And still they are implemented and sold to us by politicians. Don't they realize that they are living in the same world? For example: sad as it was, but did all those cameras in London prevent any of the July 2005 bombings?

    I can't believe that "1984" is apparently becoming a reality...
     
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    damn this is not good like ....:( we need to stop this before it gets out of hand any ideas?
     
  7. Cybermancer

    Cybermancer Don Quixote

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    In a democracy every vote counts...theoretically. ;)
     
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    Hyvry1 Maha Guru

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    Another thing to plough loads of money into, not achieve much and we pay for it.
     
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    Truth has been spoken. All rise.
     
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    Why the hell are labour still in government?????????????????
     

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    i don't know(they are idoits have you seen the price of fuel ??!!!!) but im voting for the torries in the next election
     
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    They'll just lose that database on a CD in the Royal Mail post.. :rolleyes:


    I'm sure some people will know what I mean.. ;)
     
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    Have you seen the price of oil worlwide perchance, its not isolated to the UK.

    I think all these draconian laws only make us more like our 'ememies', reducing freedom of speech, movement and ideas only leads to intolerance, predudice, fear and irrationality.
     
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    Yes, unless you live in the US and they use something called the electoral college..... then your vote may not count exactly
     

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    Yes, but you can indirectly vote by voting for those electors.
     
  17. Cybermancer

    Cybermancer Don Quixote

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    What is mind blowing to me is that in a democracy (= ruled by the people) something like that is possible. Does this mean that the majority of people want it that way? I hope not. I hope it's just the lack of information and their apathy. Which might be even worse...

    p.s.: I need a beer now! :givebeer: :beer:
     
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    GET THEM OUT- now before it is to late. By the next election i am 18 so i can tell you where my vote is going. If they stay in i am off to australia
     
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    oz'll be just as bad, unless you go hide, off in the outback somewear.
     
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    yeh they lost like a few million peoples bank details lol
     

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