TSMC to speed up development of 10nm process

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    To counter Samsung that is. Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) plans to speed up the development of its 10nm process to fend off competition from Samsung Electronics, which reportedly ...

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    proFits Ancient Guru

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    Better late than never.....
     
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    k3vst3r Ancient Guru

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    An yet both trail Intel in the field
     
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    sykozis Ancient Guru

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    Only if they can produce better yields as a result....
     

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    Intel is still at 22nm. 14nm CPUs will be available in December 2014 to market.
    Therefore if other factories get volume production of 14/16nm and its variants early 2015. I would not call it trailing / being late.
    Especially since we do not even know if this time it is true 14nm on intel side as they have quite history.
    And honestly power efficiency of TSMC/GloFo 28nm is now very close to intel's 22nm.
    It's just AMD failing to deliver proper IPC therefore have to clock those CPUs outside of process efficient spots just to be competitive performance wise.

    And another place where AMD fails horribly is number of transistors per x86_64 CPU core.

    You can just check how many more transistors AMD needs per x86_64 core compared to intel and how much higher IPC on intel's side is.

    Then you find that if intel built-up CPU in TSMC's 28nm instead of their 22nm it would not only be 50% cheaper (price vs transistor count is around 2x higher on intel side than AMD), but it would maybe eat bit less energy on certain lower clocks. Unless clocked too high as intel's process have sweet spots at bit higher frequency than TSMC.
     
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    Can we get those 20nm products out there first? Even the new nVidia cards are said to be 28nm for the first patch.
     
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    sykozis Ancient Guru

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    And it's rumored that NVidia may skip 20nm all together.
     
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    But the 16nm won't be available this year.

    Maybe we will see that with the GTX900 series?
     

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