TSMC: 5nm on schedule, will be available in large quantities faster than 7nm

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    2Q of 2020 sounds too tight for Nvidia's next generation if that's going to be 1H of 2020. Nvidia wouldn't be able to count on it, I reckon, especially since they tend to have the healthy opinion of wanting to have reasonable amounts of cards to sell immediately. But then again, people were always predicting the N7+ to be used for it, weren't they?
     
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    I thought they were going with Samsung and not TSMC for their next gen.
     
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    I don't remember anymore if that was just a rumour or a fully solid deal. Maybe I should have tried to check before writing anything...
     

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    they'll go with both, probably the entry ampere cards will stay on 12nm.
     
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    Q2 could be as soon as April, and going into high volume production at that point means they have been doing risk-production for months already, so if you eg. wanted to launch at Computex in June, then it might be possible.
    On the other hand, NVIDIA isn't usually one to jump to the cutting edge processes, but use proven and established designs. But then, TSMC N7+ is said to have really low yields currently, so...

    Guess we'll know when we know.
     
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    Can only mean good and better things for us consumers.

    I'm just pissed I told my wife it'd be another six to seven years before another upgrade. This advancement in technology all of a sudden is going to make things harder in a few places other than the wallet.
     
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    So during a stockholder meeting a question was asked about 5 nanometer node and this was an answer:
    C. C. Wei - Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company Limited - Vice Chairman & CEO: " Next node, you're mentioning about 5-nanometer and 3-nanometer?"
    So 3 nanometer is already on the table.
    And most articles claim to "know" that Nvidia will be using Samsung 7nm chips. Taiwanese publication DigiTimes recently confirmed that Nvidia’s next gen Ampere GPU architecture will be using 7 nm tech and is scheduled for a 2020 release.
     
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    Ampere will be a process mix, low power stuff will probably stay on 12nm @ TMSC while high power stuff is produced by samsung on EUV.

    It's not a shot in the dark to say that TMSC is short in capacity presently with Apple mass producing plastic turds phones.
     
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    So, 3 seems incredible. What are we going when it gets to nought :p
     

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    Next year we’ll get 7nm EUV. 5nm will be mostly for mobile next year and CPUs and GPUs will come in 2021.

    Guess whatever comes after Ampere will use 5nm+ in 2023 or 2024, which at that rate might be 3nm.
     
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    Read Tsmc is building 14 --->Billion<------ dollar 3nm fab Facility. Business is good I guess?
     

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