TRT - Testosterone Replacement Therapy - My Journey

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  1. Gibbonlimbs

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    Hi

    My name is Steven. Im 34 and from England.

    4 months ago I hit absolute rock bottom. I hated pretty much everything, everything stressed me out, I didnt want to be around anyone including my friends and my family.... even my incredible little 7 year old son. This is how bad depression can effect a person.... it saddens me to think back how I was... what kind of person I had become.

    Im here now 4 months later in the strongest mentally stable state I could of ever imagined I could be in and I want to share my experiences purely in the hope I can help somebody else.

    Depression for me crept in slow, slow enough I didnt notice what it was until it was too late. I thought it was down to stress at work, bills, constantly working away from home... I thought my depressed state was just ME, the person I had grown up to be. I had accepted I was a miserable man and just plodded on through my horrible life.

    Sex drive completely vanished which in turn gave added stress with the Girlfriend. When I returned home from working away for the week my family found themselves tiptoeing around me in the hope they wouldn't send me into a rage. It wouldn't take much to piss me off and looking back now im ashamed how I acted angrily over nothing.

    I ended up with a major bad head, shoulder and neck ache one day at work which was bad enough for me just pack up my tools and drive 200 mile home. I had mentally lost it by this time and me and my girlfriend decided it was time to seek help before this illness finished us off.

    I saw the doctor and he was wanting to put me straight on a course of anti depressants... I said no.

    Before I went to see him I had researched that all my symtoms were related to low testosterone levels. The UK isnt upto speed on low testosterone in men and all the info I found was from the USA where its quite a large and advanced treatment.

    I asked the doc to test my blood and check for low testosterone, I was certain this was my problem, I knew if it was I could answer the question to why I had been so deppressed, so miserable for such a long time. Looking back now I would honestly say I had been ill for 10 years. Like I said before, depression creeps in slow and with me I didn't realise it was taking over me.

    The day my doctor told me I had low testosterone will never be forgotten.... it was the day I got my life back.

    I started my Testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) which for me was a testosterone gel you apply daily. I started to feel better slowly and now 3 months later I feel cured. My energy, happiness, strength physically and mentally has returned. Its been so long I've felt this amazing I feel like I've had a brain and body transplant from an 18 year old.

    How many people are wrongly diagnosed who have low T though? Doctors seem to treat depression by using the anti depression pill route in the UK. It seems from alot of other mens experiences I've read that doctors here are not trained up adequately to spot and treat low T here which if true is a very worring thing.

    The main symptoms of low T are:

    * Depression

    * Anxiety

    * Brain fog, cloudy mental feeling

    * Stress

    * Irrational thinking and acts

    * low sex drive, no sex drive

    * low energy levels.

    * confusion

    * Muscle loss

    There is a great deal of info on web on Low T for those who want to read a more detailed summary and if you have just a slight feeling you may be sufffering from it I urge you to have a blood test and rule it out. It could change your life.

    In a nutshell your testerone levels control your hormone levels and thats why you end up such a wreck. I thought I couldnt be repaired but unknown to me I could be and have been. Im so greatful and looking forward to taking life head on with anything it can throw at me.

    I'd like to hear anyone else's low T experiences and if I can help I shall try my best.

    Cheers.
     
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  2. Mooshan

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    I rarely speak up on the forums but couldn't help but reply to this.

    I strongly believe I have had the same problem in recent times, and usually the doctors hand me a survey to fill in and then supply me with anti depressants, after reading this im starting to wonder myself whether or not I have been going through the same? I seem to suffer irregularities and the same symptoms you described but my doctor is quick to pass it off as just depression no matter what I say.

    Are there any side effects to this treatment?
     
  3. Labyrinth

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    imo anti-depressants are a joke anyway just look at the side effects, every one of them has a long list of side effects and cause more problems than they solve

    Sadly depression can be the result of numerous problems and are harder to solve, since a doctor can not see the problem but that said filling people with anti depressants should be avoided, anyway glad you got your problem sorted OP
     
  4. yasamoka

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    It's great that you got back in good shape, depression is depressing :nerd:

    It's horrible, though, that it seems that they do not exactly know what you were facing and just went the anti-depressant route. Except if we're missing something here and there are side-effects to the treatment you had (now or in the future)?
     

  5. Ryu5uzaku

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    anti-depressants are just fine they help one to survive through tough time if stuff gets too hard to handle normally. they aren't a cure tho. therapy is the cure for that kind of crap.

    and not every anti-depressant is for anyone. I've had 0 side effects so far.

    And for op good that you got through stuff. It's sad that they are that fast to describe anti-depressants when those I think need a proper check out before anything. Fact that most of those symptoms come with acute depression might make the diagnosing harder but yeah one needs to get proper check not just go "here take pills "
     
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  6. Gibbonlimbs

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    Hi buddy

    Here is the info on the testosterone gel use.

    http://m.netdoctor.co.uk/sex-and-relationships/medicines/testogel.html

    Ive had to have an MRI scan of the pituitary gland located in your head. The gland is the size of a pea and is just below the brain behind the eyes and nose region. An inactive gland basically doesnt send the signal to your testicles to make the right amount of testosterone.

    One reason it may become inactive is a non cancerous tumor can grow and put pressure on the gland so it doenst work.

    Im at the endocrinologist this Wednesday to get my results. A small operation my be needed if I have a tumor.

    There is a good chance I will be on TRT for the rest of my life but the doctor said he might give me a 3 month slow release injection and see if that works for me.

    I've gone from feeling like a weak little 12 year old girl to a strong confident man. Im making great gains in the muscle department now my testosterone levels are where they should be. People I haven't seen for 6 months are asking me how ive managed to pack on some quality muscle. I am lifting weights for 8 hours a week so I am hittting it pretty hard.

    Ive noticed my body hair in general is thickening up too. Its great to feel like Im a man again and not like the freak I was thought I was.

    Ask for a blood test and ask your Testosterone levels are checked. Doctors in this country seem to need a little persuasion to get the ball rolling so dont let them fob you off, be very persistent you want this doing. If what I wrote in my first post fits your symptoms print it out and make the doc read it if you think it will help get your point across easier. See another doctor too. It was actually a different doctor I saw who got the ball rolling for me, my life long doctor is useless.

    Cheers.
     
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  7. 007.SirBond

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    Can you buy this testosterone gel over the counter or only through perscription? Is this anything like steroids? Are there any side effects?
     
  8. FULMTL

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    I was going to say start exercising as that is the natural way to get rid of stress, but looks like you've already started doing that. Now buy a bike and ride to work like I do. You'll feel better everyday.

    You could start doing other things that could help occupy your brain to relieve of stress weekly, like working on a project car, gun range, fixing things around the house, or other manly things haha.
     
  9. 007.SirBond

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    In honestly, the best way to get more testosterone naturally is just lift heavy weights. You either end up getting aggressive or horny, or both all the time. lol, you gotta feel the pain in order to get the rewards bro. If you have a friend who is taking steroids and you aren't while you are both working out, he will give you good motivation to keep up with him. You can't quit. The more you keep going, the stronger you become. That's life, you have to deal with the suck to get better. God is cruel.
     
  10. scoter man1

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    Reading over the side effects from the link posted earlier, it looks like the major one listed is probably increased risk of prostate cancer. It says "prostate disorders" but I'm fairly certain that testosterone increases risk of prostate cancer. I think there are other issues too, but that may be the difference between excessive use (like most anabolic steroid users) and prescribed use. Of course, I'm just using bro science for the latter part.
     

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    I've never used steroids because of the potential side effects. Lots of my friends have taken them. They take clomids, which are meant for women to help them be fertile, along with their steroids. When I found this is part of the process. I decided against it. It just seems like there are way too many drugs involved with the use of steroids. For me, this is way too risky, who knows what those drugs are doing to your mind and body. The gains of muscle are definitely not worth it when you have no idea what it is going to do to your mind when you get older.

    I guess even with this gel, there are side effects. I guess my theory on just naturally working out, doing it the hard way, making gains the natural way is the best route, even tho it takes forever compared to those juice monkeys. I guess I am not challenging my workouts enough. Because the body adapts too easy. I need to do a more intense workout my body finds hard. I guess God has intended for man to constantly challenge himself in order to get stronger. It seems as soon as you get use to a workout and find it easy. That means that workout is no longer useful in helping you make gains.
     
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  12. Gibbonlimbs

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    Hi mate.

    The jel is prescription only and I suppose its like a very mind form of steroid.

    The jel is only giving me the testosterone level of a normal man. Its 8 hours aweek lifting and dedication to diet which is giving my the results in the gym.

    When I was ill with low T low I tried exercising and lifting weights to hopefully feel less stressed and have more energy. Because I so messed up I couldnt make any gains as my hormones where out of control, It was a waste of time.

    As for the side effects im pretty sure the prostate cancer issue only lies with people later in life who already have issues.

    Im the kinda guy who thinks that a side effect of crossing the street is being killed by a bus. Your time is up when your time is up and I intend to make everyday count.

    With the help of testosterone replacement it has made me just normal again. Because I havent been normal for so long Ive basically rediscovered happiness towards everything. Its a great feeling.

    Everyday is a gift..... thats why we call it the present :)
     
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    Hey glad to hear you worked it out. :D Good job man. And yeah anti depressants only "mask" or fix the symptoms, but not the cause. The cause is what every person/human should seek out and thereby fix it directly, just like you did Gibbon, so good job man. :)

    I'm glad you researched it yourself and didn't let yourself be put on medications like a lamb in the pack.

    And yeah the confusion with the T, Gibbon needed to "normalize" it as his T level was way below normal level (extreme), in such an instance normal working off won't work, a little kickstarter or boost is needed.

    And yeah, try to be in the present everyone. :) It's great. :D
     
  14. Extraordinary

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    You sure they didn't give you Oestrogen by mistake ? lol jk :D

    You've actually given me a kick up the ass to go and get a blood test too, I've been on ADs on and off for the past 4 years with symptoms very similar to the ones you listed

    Docs are far too pill / prescription trigger happy, give you a script and get you out of the door

    But they make me feel like a zombie, sitting doing nothing 16 hours a day is not my idea of being cured

    Im also into lifting / exercising but since taking ADs my benchpress, weights, treadmill etc, are all redundant

    Stopped taking everything myself a few weeks ago and am starting to get some energy back, but not much, few reps on the bench and all I want to do is sit down and do nothing again

    I remember how much energy I had at 18, and being 34 now I should really have at least 80% of that left, feel like I only have about 20% of it atm
     
  15. Gibbonlimbs

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    Hi mate.

    Get the blood work done asap. Everyone should as you start to get older like us.

    Testosterone natuarally decreases each year and coupled with health issues leads to complete break down like I had.

    You could be potentially a few months away from being a new person.

    Keep in touch and good luck :)
     
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    Reading your post gives me hope,i'm going to pm you :)
     
  17. Gibbonlimbs

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    No problem. Im pretty busy with work but I will get back to you when I get a chance.

    Cheers.
     
  18. Extraordinary

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    Will do, thanks, I`ll reply here with the result, would be great if this has been the issue the whole time
     
  19. Gibbonlimbs

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    It will be better than great I can assure you.

    Good luck.
     
  20. weasel

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    Ok cheers and thx very much :)
     

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