Tokyo gets crazy with their manga/anime ban.

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  1. FULMTL

    FULMTL Ancient Guru

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    Not sure if anyone has been following this, but as an anime fan, I have been reading about the events since summer. I think it all started when an "average" person found some child porn manga ("loli" as its called there) and freaked out. Then they found even more explicit manga stuff and brought it to the media. Old people all over were going nuts about it even though adult anime/manga has been in Japanese culture for decades now.

    Basically its a new law that will regulate content of future anime and manga so that there is a bigger gap between what is considered children and adult content. I dont understand the vauge law fully yet, but it seems like what we consider "PG-13" will probably not be nonexistant. The +18 stuff is Ok though but it has to be moved into another part of the store where as before it was just all over the place even though most of the hentai are sealed in plastic. Therefor, content will either be censored more for kiddies, or can be bumped up to whats considered adult content. This will go into effect in April 2011. If this law were to happen right now, Japans' entertainment industry would collapse as shows, manga, would have to be cancelled mid production or delayed to change the content to suit the law.

    The law was brought up by an old guy who is clearly homophobic. The law is here because old people clearly despise otaku culture and lifestyle. Even in America, most people are creeped out by nerds. It seems all the politicians that were for it were old and the people of Tokyo had no say in it.

    Most recent article: http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/12/15/tokyo-manga-ban-signed-into-law/
    Article from the 13th http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/12/13/tokyo-anime-manga-ban-passes/

    Here is a funny video of a guy freaking out about it
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkZDTCsytAo
     
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    Ok.

    Not that childer should be even reading that stuff if it's mosly porn.
     
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    What's the problem if they can just "bump it up" as you say to the adult category? Why should kids below 13 be reading this stuff anyway?

    I don't see the problem.
     
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    Well it may go even deeper than that. They want to ban implied sexual content or just sexual content in anime and manga itself. As you may know Japan has a big big industry related to that stuff alone.
    But as I said before, I dont know the clear details on the law in simpler terms. Will wait to see what happens this week.

    There is a large anime conventon next year, TAF 2011, and already the top 10 production companies have stated that they will not be attending mainly because they are against it.
    Here is a graphical representation of it.
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    So as you can see, all thats left is kids shows because these companies make most of their money off of the adult stuff. I'm not talking about just porn, but action and voilent content. If there is a ban on all adult themed anime, Japan is fooked.
     
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    Those pictures remind me of that guy's room from Welcome to the NHK.

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    The first thing that comes to mind when seeing that picture is The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzimiya, does that mean I'm an otaku ?
     
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    /high five! Haha, kidding man. Most people think that if you like anime or games, you are a creepy nerd, but people would have a really hard time guessing I liked anime because I'm extroverted or I dont look like a nerd.

    Welcome To The NHK was a great series. I read all the manga and watched the show :)
     
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    So protecting kids from arguably questionable content is bad?

    Why would japan be fooked? you think the nation cant function without cartoon porn for the masses? hell man Japanese be slightly crazy they aint even got uncensored hardcore porn yet they have super slutty, skimpy heroines on TV.

    Maybe the Japanese public wants more hardcore Porn and less 'soft' bs porn which they pass as kids TV.

    Anyways I can see why people would want to curb that stuff and im all for mainstream porn, prostitution an all the good stuff just dont think kids TV should be used that way.
     
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    I agree the porn needs to be censored, however theres alot of anime that is'nt porn but has suggestive themes and or violence and foul language. If they ban those, there won't be much anime left worth watching.
     
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    Pre-2000 I would have said anime was just the word for Japanese animation, and I quite enjoyed the style. Ghost in the Shell, Akira, Ninja Scroll, Street Fighter - enjoyed them all. A lot of my morning cartoons as a kid were anime. Astro Boy, Teknoman, Transformers.

    I thought to myself: "Wow. Those Japs are really on to something using animation in place of live action to create some extraordinary scenes", and I placed it on my list of stuff I like to watch alongside Hong Kong action, Korean horror and independent films, among other things.

    Then something happened. Everything turned anime. At the time I thought the influence was graffiti, but the eyes kept getting bigger.

    These days, I find obsessing over anything, really, to be childish and immature. Somewhat a sign that one has not matured above that of a teenager.

    Honestly, I don't see what is so special about 99% of the animated garbage that gets churned out. Sure, I can appreciate that an animator can create some ridiculous action sequences using pictures, such as giant robots, or that an action movie with insane stunts can be performed with a fraction of the budget required to do the same thing with live action. Anything imagined could become possible - without costing a billion dollars.

    Now... I have found out through the power of the internets that it gets creepier than everyone having gigantic eyeballs. It simply reminds me of the sick fantasy of a rapist or stalker.

    Giant robots - Good
    Animated women - Creepy
     
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    Government regulation aside, ecci/hentai/softcore stuff has been overwhelming the anime lineup for several years. The number of good series coming out has dropped off considerably in favor of highly sexualized cartoons.

    I will say that springs anime lineup is giving me a little hope. Darker than black 3, Stand alone complex 3, Final fantasy 6, and some others that might be interesting. Of course there's still sexualization, but there's more plot to SAC than Major motoko's wardrobe.




    /can't wait to see what they do with Kefka in FF6, one of my favorite insane villians.
     

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    +1 to FF6, Kefka was a ****ing nutcase.
     
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    I'm not a erm .... Cartoon fan at all really but a friend of mine has got me hooked on reading Naruto Manga.

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    Yeah lol as thats what i thought when i saw it to lololol:nerd::banana::puke2:
     
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    haruhi suzumiya oyea >.< but really loli is just twisted beyond belief imo... else the tokyo governor is random troll going "the industry is important" "lets kill anime/manga"
     
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    Porn needs to be censored?.... I'm confused lol. That's like making guns quieter as to not scare people. There's no point really, as the end still makes the means of making it.
     

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    I don't think you quite follow the context, this kind of porn is censored in the USA. Further this porn depicts people we would consider underage, hell if you click the link and look on the right you'll see what appears to be a 12-13 year old girl mouth open inches away from a naked tit. I don't even think that's legal in this country.

    I mean ****, that link needs a NSFW tag and it's just a news article.
     
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    Idk what I'd do if I saw some guro in a nearby store along with other stuff... I'd probably freak out too, but that's just because I'm an old man, right?
     
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    Ah. Personally while it is disgusting, I see it much better than perverts doing the actual thing. At least they have an outlet.

    But I see the point. When I saw porn, I thought he meant the overall censorship in Japan.
     
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    glad i dont belong here, moving on.
     
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    doh, my bad, forgot about the actual content and strange ads of that site. Posted warnings at the start.

    Whats funny about this law is that it has to do with 2D works, and photographic content of this type is simply ignored...
     
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