Thunderf00t puts his foot down - SpaceX: BUSTED!!

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  1. UnrealGaming

    UnrealGaming Ancient Guru

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    wavetrex Maha Guru

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    Thunderfoot is going the way of Alex Jones.

    Please stop promoting such idiocy.
     
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    Loobyluggs Ancient Guru

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    You do know he is a Professor, right?
     
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    The Laughing Ma Ancient Guru

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    Don't need a half hour video explaining it. It's very simple if Elon Musk says it or claims it chances are it's going to be total BS. Best circumstance is it will be late to market, by a long way, cost more than claimed and do a fraction of what was originally claimed.
     
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    Ah yes the classic case of the kettle calling the pot black.
     
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    I'm not gonna watch this untill it's been approved by Mike Lindell
     
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    you do know professors can be idiots, right?
     
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    Loobyluggs Ancient Guru

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    Wasn't talking to you :)
     
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    Point 1) Right at start of Part one, he claims it is mere 10% saving. Yet numbers of wiki show 19.4% saving.
    One does not need calculator to immediately know he missed mark by a lot. And one can be certain that he put a lot of effort into making such video without putting any real effort into understanding situation itself.
    Point 2) Price per kg for space delivery: He accused Musk from not using equal method of comparison. And then did same thing and reversed it against Musk.
    Point 3) Took me 10 seconds to reverse function he used in excel.
    He's idiot.

    Video 2:
    Point 1) He admits to point 1 in 1st video. But not as and error. Instead as an proof that people who noticed are stupid.
    Point 2) He states that capsule can't land because there is not dense enough atmosphere while playing video with capsule using propulsion which can't care less about atmosphere.
    Point 3) In his cost "estimate", he is again pulling ratios from his arse.
    I correct myself on "He's and idiot." by saying: "He has idiotic motivations."

    While I do not like Elon Musk, he still does move a lot of things forward. And he operated by good rules of innovation:
    - Fail early
    - Fail often
    - learn, improve
    - try again

    At this point, I think that only really good product he has is his Solar Roof. But it was not so good product in past as it did not evolve enough. And that's the point. Failures led to improvements.
     
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    I just want to see them send more fireproof mice that don't require oxygen into space.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/weir...Falcon-9-launch-Crew-Dragon-video?jwsource=cl

    Also would like to talk to NASA (they're doing God's work really, think about all they provide society for just a basic ass minute) too about their video quality, considering they can "film" planets 400 billion miles away and 12 year olds can stream Fortnite in 4k out of basements in Nebraska... you'd think they could give us a little clearer picture of what was going on with our 23 billion dollar a year contribution to their cause. I have an old webcam from 2011 I could donate if that would help.
     
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  11. The Laughing Ma

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    and I assume that your 9 year old web cam is up to the task of being launched at 50,000km/hr out of this planet's atmosphere, sitting in sub zero temperatures of space for several months, being bombarded by cosmic rays through out it's entire journey, capable of surviving an entry to a planet 100million miles away and then transmitting back images from that planet while still surviving the harsh conditions of that planet? I am also pretty sure NASA doesn't have a fibre cable connecting Earth to Mars and relies more on compressed data packets that can be sent within viable transmission windows.
     
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    10~20% saves over convectional launches? considering the cost of launch that not really saying much. not the musk really need to care is is one the rich people in the world
     
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    You know i find it funny we have thies 4k camera and abilities tos ee these thing far far away from planet, by images of moon are low res, and camera on thing like planes and fighter jets and CCTV seem to such really low res too. That or when they release these thing to public they release low res stuff purposely.

    As it is most people are walking with around "camera" that show better res in videos and picture then most released to public by these agencies, Every now and then we get images represent what cameras can do. release to public like the mar images.
     
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    Gents and non-gents: I thin a lot of your comments should be on the YouTube page for the video in question and not here, unless you are just interested in spilling peoples' pints.

    It would be very easy to get this thread shut down on the grounds that by discussing EM, you have to discuss a few topics that are banned topics on these forums, like Governments, Government contracts, the Oil industry.

    Comment as you want, but, be aware of what and who Musk actually is before you rah! rah! around him.
     

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    I see my joke about video quality activated your defense lasers.

    As someone who's spent hundreds of hours looking at the sky through high powered cameras attached to telescopes off of both US coasts, I still to this day have no clue why people get so defensive when people question anything regarding NASA/Space Xs agenda, especially baby boomers. They literally pull in somewhere around 50 million a day in taxpayer money (NASA) and what exactly do we have to show for any of it? A few spotty images that are a small fraction of the resolution and clarity than the ones myself and my drinking buddies took 5-10 years ago with civilian grade equipment? You ever seen a rocket launch up close? Tried looking at the night sky with night vision goggles on? You ever looked at the moon for hours through high powered gear? You start becoming skeptical when you have. I can assure you that the moon and stars look absolutely nothing like the pictures NASA or Space X is showing you.
     
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    Is there something you want to tell us?

    I wanted to point out that SpaceX is a private company, and as such isn't required to have their financial statements audited. Unlike NASA.
    Now.. is there someone in SpaceX who likes to play fast and loose with numbers? Maybe someone who said he'll build the entire 350 miles LA-SF Hyperloop for $6 billion LOL
     
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    Is that a plus or minus in this equation lol - I feel like it could go both ways haha
    Snap I just saw this... I guess when the "Loob" comes out people are all just expected to ___________ on this forum right? *shrugs .... guess I missed that memo...
     
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    Yes. NASA is a giant boondoggle thats wasting our time and billions of our dollars. Space X is far from "privately funded" as well.

    I'm out. I'll let you guys enjoy your children's show brought to you by Nvidia.
     
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    I spent many years at sea, not sure if I could even describe what the night sky looks like at 39n 160w, but you are missing quite a show anywhere within 200 miles of land.
     
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