Discussion in 'Games, Gaming & Game-demos' started by wallabi, Oct 3, 2003.
ah yes i can imagine the hacker was another fan boy like u innit?
could very well be ,point is ,it has been leaked ,and whoever done it ,was either interested way too much in the actual source code (for future modding ,cheating in mp games) ,or was offended by Valves recent issues with HL2 ,just dont turn it into a flame war
ummm its a little late for that , considering anyone with a computer knowlege above I LIKE AOL has the source code on there computer by now.. only 1 who can realy get a idea on it are the ppl running torent servers. evan then that dosent include all the irc sends/gets etc.. valve cant do a dam thing now. it would just cost way oso much more money to find ppl with the source in a legal manner then run trials for each and every 1. just wouldent happen
the source is leaked , ppl have it . CODERS are reading every line . only thing valve could do is change the name of everything rolf. and mabi re-organize it. so anything made now wont work on the realese. "right away"
I agree ,you cant accuse anyone now d_fresh ,its way way too late ,I think you probably have heard of irc ,dc etc?well theres about 100 ppl I seen so far who share it ,so it is pointless ,same thing happened to doom III alpha ,surely you cant accuse just a random person on leaking it
its basicly the same thing with ppl and mp3s..... exept every now and then u hear of that 1 poor ant-computer knowlegable rights person who is attacked and sued for haveing a measly 2000 mp3s.... 2000? wtf... most ppl i know have atleast ATLEAST 10k .. i remeber when u could dl 1000 a day of napster once u found those "fast upploaders" with a decent ammount then qued there hole hd..
the mane thing here is The means in wich ppl currently recive hl2source , is compleatly private to thereself so if they where to be "brought up on it" valve would have to display how they where abile to aquire the knowlege of knowing that his 1 person had this writtin to this sector of there hd. and then at that moment u would see they broke 80% of all privacy laws to date. and then would get backfired and sued themselves...
enless of course they wanna spend billions in a fbi warrent for all these ppl with the source.... yea right.
exactly, stick to the facts. this code is suposed to be a month old. they could change a lot. so i agree with you. everything i posted has the chance of being changed. i think that most of it is clse to facts. but you never know. all these rumors are unconfirmed. its all just educated guesses based on old code.
good, you know how i got the source code? i went to packetnews.com. typed in halflife. and it gave me the IRC server, the channel. and the bot that had it. and i logged onto IRC and got it. so if you are looking valve. thats how i got it. not hard to do. same with the other thousnads of people that have it by now.
whats funny about the code is:
I can barely code java. And have no experience with C++. But, there both object oriented. so its not that different.
Valve put in soooo many god darn comments that even someone with no coding experience can tell what there doing. The code is all perfectly formatted, easy to read. And SO MANY comments. I guess they have awesome coders. The code is god-like.
just read this. Aparently valve got screwed so bad. Wow. they whole network was compromised. multiple computers hacked. they dont even know how to find out which computers are hack and which are not!! now rumors of hl2 beta and working compiles and such. most people deny. i dont know yet. time to check irc.
id belive it, i could picture someone touchin up some lvls / models from hl or lets say q3 or whatever then implamenting them into a hl2 compiled engine?.
And everything is so "infod" in the source cause they want allot of modders buying this just to work with it.. buy makeing it so obviusly easy to code for. im sure allot more modders will be buying this than orginaly now that theve seen the code and got a good headstart on it
what wer they running, the windows xp firewall?
i just smells so funny... VALVE ... a multi million dollar game company.... and a LEAD programmer.. tell me something dosent fit here.. some dis7 livvin hacker with 1k a month buget was able to break into there systems ? wt... im sure there servers are ****ing some nice 100+k ibm/sun systems also so i dont see HOW this could happen + the proggramer.. U TELLING ME A VALVE PROGRAMMER with clearance enough to take this home isnt smart enough to have it on a secure computer? please.
cough* i cant imagine them and there money not haveing 100% everything that can be certificated/encrypted/encoded/passworded/etc DONE SO.
ever hear of the blaster worm? doesnt matter how secure or how rich a company is. if some one really wants to, and has enough time and patience, they will find a way. in
i hate blaser worm. i work for resnet and i had to go to everyones computer on campus and personally install the patcha nd updats for it. suck my nuts blaster.
I found some pics of HL2 after being compiled. Lots of rumors of sucessful compiles of hte game engine. no levels or anything. just the engine.
The rumor now is that the hacker was able to grab the game itself. As in one group has a working version of HL2. Noone knows though, it's all rumors.
the source code can be compiled, but all your gonna get is a couple of editing tools that work for things such as modelling. the game itself WILL not work because no textures, models or sounds... ect. are part of the source code. as stated all the source can let you do is see how the game works and try to make cheats, or maybe get an idea for mods. NOT play HL2, or run the engine.
as for the game itself, there is a rumor of a 1.3GB beta that was leaked. but the rumor of a warez group working on it was confirmed to be fake. most groups dont deal with beta versions of games. the funny thing is that there is a 1.6GB file going around saying its the beta, when, in reality, it's porn.
i hate to say it Madagent, but i am pretty sure those pics are photoshop trickery.
The pics from madagent might be legit. They come from a video I've seen of a cube rendered with worldcraft. The textures are ultra low quality but it could be the real deal. Not that it gets you anywhere in regards to HL2.
see, i think the guys made their own crappy textures and crappy map. and rendered it withing the HL2 engine. so all of what you guys said still holds up. they just improvided a little and made some stuff to run in game. but i dont know. i saw 1 pic, that was supposed to be the entire game. it turned out to just be a screen shot of the demo that valve played for everyone a while ago. its was a blantent fake.
my bad guys, i should have said where i got the pics from.
i thought this would have been shutdown by now. so i used my own server.