This is not quite right, YouTube is malefic?

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  1. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    Hello gurus!
    Sometimes I am pondering to even post some stuff, but sometimes I really don't know where to unburden and have people who can understand what I am saying.
    To the matter at hand.
    I own a Nokia smartphone, latest Android 10 with latest patches. No unlocked bootloader, no sideloading apks, nada. The only thing I've done it's the DNS, I am using Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 and a VPN.
    Well, Monday suddenly YouTube hanged a few times, stopped and restated the app and went on with my day.
    Now, in the next morning on my way to work I wanted to listen to a YouTuber , a short video about Kubernetes. YouTube was glitchy.
    Went to work , did my task and at lunch time something happened.
    I've had on my YouTube subscription list a new channel, with president propaganda. Something like We will win...or something video.
    I was in shock.
    Also happened on my Twitter. What the hell is going on?
    First and foremost I hate politics.
    Second, I really don't like that president.
    Third, how on Earth this just happened?
    Does YouTube algorithm decided that it is my best interest to have this on my feed?
    Does Google algorithm/AI started to take control over devices regardless of user opinions?
    Anyone experienced something like that?
    I changed my passwords, uninstalled and reinstalled YouTube and Twitter.
    I am not sure what's going on, and for sure it wasn't an accident. I am sorry that I didn't take screenshots, because I thought: It's my phone, a screenshot will demostrate nothing, non believers will not believe that evidence.
    And for sure I don't do drugs, suffer from dementia or Alzheimer's.
    Anyone can say something?
    TL DR I had suddenly a new channel on my YouTube subscription without consenting.
     
  2. Ghosty

    Ghosty Ancient Guru

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    4G or 3G?
     
  3. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    Now that you asked, I didn't took notice.
    Usually I am on 4G on my carrier SIM.

    But Monday I switched to other SIM with 3G , as I have dual SIM.
    Why is this relevant?
     
  4. Ghosty

    Ghosty Ancient Guru

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    Carriers can block websites. YouTube is 100% stable. So it's either your phone or carrier.
     

  5. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    I am considering switching to a libre platform without Google services.
    I had enough.
    This is too much.
     
  6. Ghosty

    Ghosty Ancient Guru

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    Try switching to a DNS other than (dns.google/Cloudflare one.one.one.one.one) Cloudflare is rubbish anyway.

    Edit* Turn off bluetooth/NFC.
     
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    user1 Ancient Guru

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    Youtube has changed alot, they filter certain search terms to direct to "mainstream news" no matter what the context, their crappy fix for "fake news" i suppose, makes it very annoying to find non-news related content about a given thing, on top of that the side bar will lead you to really weird stuff now if you leave it on auto play for too long, you have to keep in mind as well that its all personalized now, so even if i have all these weird videos attributed to me, it could be totally normal for someone else.

    If you clear your cookies/cache and clear your data for the account , it should stop for a while at least.
     
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    GhostXL Ancient Guru

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    I've had this happen also. I went private and turned off all history after seeing this. I know how you feel people blame you for being high or something when they are trying to mess with you. They are actively spying on all your accounts .....yes you heard me spying. Like it or not. Sorry to tell you this. Only way I use You tube anymore is as I mentioned with everything turned off and incognito. Tried again later on...same thing happened. I spent more time clicking "not interested" than I did watching videos I'd be interested in.
     
  9. Extraordinary

    Extraordinary Ancient Guru

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    I think you guys forgot to wear your tin foil hats today...

    Apps are far from perfect, as are sites or programs, YT corrupted, which hardly warrants Aliens, Lizard people or your neighbour 13 doors down using a 20ft antenna to hack your router and feed you propaganda...

    Stock Twitter and YouTube apps serve 'relevant' tweets and segments / videos '/ ads

    Use an ablocker and don't use their stock apps....

    https://vancedapp.com/
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.arthurivanets.owly

    ^^ Never seen an ad on them yet
     
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  10. Noisiv

    Noisiv Ancient Guru

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    maybe you have inadvertently subbed? or someone else did it jokingly?
    all it takes is a screen touch

    not that what you're describing is impossible, but isnt the above more likely.
     

  11. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    I thought about it.
    I never leave my phone out of my sight and all my YouTube channels are tech related and some hobby. But absolutely no politics.
    I am puzzled at best.
     
  12. emperorsfist

    emperorsfist Maha Guru

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    This Youtube Vanced, how is it? Do you use it?
     
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    Labyrinth Ancient Guru

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    YouTube Vanced is like finding a diamond in a cesspool. No more dozens of ads during videos and the newer version has sponsor block built it.

    An alternative is to save your subscription file from YouTube and use a client like Newpipe.
     
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    emperorsfist Maha Guru

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    Thanks for the reply. I'll try it out and see how it fares.
     
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    mbk1969 Ancient Guru

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    But not devices. All devices look into servers, all account info is there.
     

  16. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    Either way, situation maybe singular, maybe I am to blame.
    But I will make a move very soon to a complete libre platform.
    Just so happens to find Rob Braxman channel and offered some solid tips.
    Also, will cancel other accounts as Twitter and whatever.
     
  17. emperorsfist

    emperorsfist Maha Guru

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    IDK, over the years that I've used Youtube, I've never had this happen. Sure, I find the algorithm to be complete rubbish (and to be worsening with each passing "update"), I did notice that it often "recommends" me "mainstream" foreign news sources (though none from my home country) or leads me to nonsensical "recommended" videos altogether, and I grow tired of the ads that now appear even in non monetised videos. However I've never had a mysterious new subscription, nor was I ever unsubscribed from a channel (like some youtubers seem to warn against).

    It must be said, however, that I only have a facebook account, which I visit once or twice per year, and I ignore all other social media, so that may be a factor as well. I'm not sure if you're spied on, or if the app or phone simply spazzed out, but I would lean more towards the latter. In any case, do what you feel is best for you.
     
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    Loobyluggs Ancient Guru

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    Only thing of note I've found with YT lately is they removed the 'I'm not interested in this channel/user' option when you want to hide videos. Now, the only option you got is 'already seen it' or 'I do not like this video'.

    No option to block the user is pretty bad.

    I,

    should have the option to block content. It's my computer, not YT's
     
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    CalculuS Ancient Guru

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    I've stopped using their standard youtube app since they ramped up their ads.

    Tiresome that now with modern technology we can't escape the tiring politics.
     
  20. emperorsfist

    emperorsfist Maha Guru

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    Really? I still seem to have this function.
     

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