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thinking of building a 24/7 folding machine, suggestions?

Discussion in 'Folding@Home - Join Team Guru3D !' started by JoPiss, May 23, 2008.

  1. JoPiss

    JoPiss Master Guru

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    I was thinking a server type mother board would be best, but I'm open to better ATX's if possible. I won't use the system at all and I want it to be not only small but also very quiet.

    I read some article sating hardware for folding differs from the norm, so I want the best specifically for folding. Some part suggestions would be very appreciated.

    as long as it's not over a grand, I'll be fine with the price.
     
  2. aircool

    aircool Don Aircooleone Staff Member

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    Hm I think you should try something like:

    • Q6600 G0
    • P35 Chip set board (Abit ip35-e/gigbyte P35) maybe the G35?
    • 2GB ram cheap ddr2 6400 (800mhz)
    • cheap gpu e.g. nvidia 7100/8400
    • 500watt psu ('decent' brand')
    • 40gb hard drive

    All cheap now.

    If your using windows and running two SMP clients and using affinity changer you can get 3000PPD at stock at best on this single machine. If you overclock and use some 64 bit linux you should see some more :D

    FYI: This is as best PPD you can get for the case unless you find better..
     
  3. 91LudeSiT

    91LudeSiT Master Guru

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    Buy a PS3, it would be the cheapest and most powerful option.
     
  4. aircool

    aircool Don Aircooleone Staff Member

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    Not neccesarily.

    As I said above the quad will reign over it with overall production as the PS3 will do 700-1200 max a day (points) and a quad at stock can do 2000-3000 a day.
     

  5. JoPiss

    JoPiss Master Guru

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    I already have one, but I don't want to leave it running all day. I run folding randomly with that thing.
     
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    Psytek Ancient Guru

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    Donate money to someone with a proper server who folds.

    Running your own PC just for folding is a big waste of money and electricity.

    Just run it on your own PC when it isn't doing anything, and support the folding project by donating.
     
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    Zareph Ancient Guru

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    QFT :cheers:

    I fully agree there, buddy.
     
  8. aircool

    aircool Don Aircooleone Staff Member

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    That would be your opinion really. Each to his own, remember that.

    Although that said only put money in to it if your going to folding seriously..
     
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    If you realy want to drop money, then a quad pcie slot motherboard with 4 3850's (4850s?) and a quad core would dominate. But I am not sure the gpu core can fold on multipule cards? I did see where somthing similar was done with 4 gx2 for medical imaging and it beat out a million dollar super computer. http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?61702
     
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    kitch9 Ancient Guru

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    Wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy a PS3?

    The folding performance is meant to be excellent as that is what its cpu is good at.
     

  11. aircool

    aircool Don Aircooleone Staff Member

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    Not neccesarily, folding performance isnt that good but not bad.

    Q6600 at stock can manage 2000-3000PPD, the ps3 1100PPD.
     
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    sdamaged99 Ancient Guru

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    Couldn't agree more. I don't see what the big thrill is with folding. All it does it cost a lot of money and generates a lot of heat. I genuinely can't see the thrill in seeing who can get the most points. I tried it for a few weeks on all my pcs and PS3 and all it did was cost me a fortune in electricity and made most of rooms hot !
     
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    aircool Don Aircooleone Staff Member

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    Cost, is pretty minimal and heat well I guess your quad runs hot?

    If you cant see the thrill or have no interest then just dont post.
     
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    These are my temps while folding 100% cpu usage all cores q6600 at 3.0ghz
    q6600 just dont get hot unless you have a poor cooling solution.

    Motherboard Name Abit IN9 32X

    Temperatures
    Motherboard 37 °C (99 °F)
    CPU 48 °C (118 °F)
    CPU #1 / Core #1 61 °C (142 °F)
    CPU #1 / Core #2 58 °C (136 °F)
    CPU #1 / Core #3 55 °C (131 °F)
    CPU #1 / Core #4 55 °C (131 °F)
    PWM1 69 °C (156 °F)
    PWM2 69 °C (156 °F)
    PWM3 70 °C (158 °F)
    PWM4 67 °C (153 °F)
    PWM5 66 °C (151 °F)
    GPU1: GPU 62 °C (144 °F)
    GPU1: GPU Diode 69 °C (156 °F)
    GPU1: GPU Ambient 58 °C (136 °F)
    GPU2: GPU 62 °C (144 °F)
    GPU2: GPU Diode 67 °C (153 °F)
    GPU2: GPU Ambient 59 °C (138 °F)

    Cooling Fans
    CPU 1320 RPM
    GPU1 1502 RPM (60%)
    GPU2 1757 RPM (60%)

    Voltage Values
    CPU Core 1.32 V
    +3.3 V 3.32 V
    +5 V 5.07 V
    +12 V 12.00 V
    +12 V 4-pin 12.06 V
    +5 V Standby 5.13 V
    CPU VTT 1.21 V
    North Bridge Core 1.39 V
    South Bridge Core 1.52 V
    HyperTransport 1.44 V
    DIMM 1.88 V
    DIMM VTT 0.94 V
    GPU1: GPU Vcc 3.15 V
    GPU2: GPU Vcc 3.17 V

    oh and the thrill is if a cure is found by team Guru :D although it's a huge team effort from all teams..

    largest supercomputer in the world, and free to use.
     
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  15. sdamaged99

    sdamaged99 Ancient Guru

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    Cost pretty minimal? running 4 pcs each with fairly hefty graphics cards, 2-5 hard drives each and dual / quad core processors? Oh and not forgetting 500-1000 watt PSU's? Trust me, i pay the electricity bill and it's not cheap.

    a PS3 folding 24/7 uses a ridiculous amount of electricity as well.
     

  16. aircool

    aircool Don Aircooleone Staff Member

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    Well if your folding you dont need half of those components, so whose fault is it? Yes yours.

    Unless your running the gpu client..

    A quad core box will use less energy than the ps3 at folding, lol. And I dont need to trust you, I'll trust what im seeing infront of me thanks, I've been folding for frankly - quite a while and well i've seen little impact.
     
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    So i suppose the only logical way to save money whilst folding on your gaming pcs, is to strip the unneccesary components out before starting the folding?

    I didn't say the quad core box uses less electricity, its fairly obvious that's not the case, i was merely stating that leaving your PS3 to fold 24/7 is far more expensive than you think.
     
  18. aircool

    aircool Don Aircooleone Staff Member

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    - Yeah, if your going to fold constantly or alot. Or just manage the hardware at OS level.
    - We know the ps3 will be expensive, you've already said that and we all had previously noted so (assumed).
     
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    [Spitfire] Master Guru

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    wait a minute, computers don't cost much electricity, i got 5 computers in the house and 3 of them stay on 24/7, the cost in electricity.. practically doesn't exist, maybe its because i live in Dubai, pretty cheap here, what really takes a toll is running six 2 ton Airconditioners (I'm going to hell for wasting all that energy)
     
  20. sdamaged99

    sdamaged99 Ancient Guru

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    You'll be fine as long as you bring the air conditioners with you !
     

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