Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, May 20, 2015.
Absolute joke. Those R295x2 results are disgraceful uke2:
But Kepler itself is several times faster at tessellation than the 290x. Which was the whole argument behind the Crysis tesselation-gate thing. So if tessellation is really a factor here, why is the 290x also not struggling? Did AMD unlock tessellation performance in a recent driver? Is it more optimized towards their method of tessellation?
I'm not being facetious, I'm just trying to understand why there is such a performance difference with Kepler here.
Yeah, im just trying to understand it aswell - the tessellation thing was the only thing i could really think of causing it, aside of carelessness (or possibly malicious intent) from nvidia.
The fact that amd is that much slower at tesselation than kepler makes it even wierder actually.
The 290x normally beats both the 780TI and GTX970.
What Nvidia is doing with their Gameworks is not ethical, and it's not helping the video game industry move forward. Why not make the source code available like AMD does and enable all developers to implement these visual and physics effects in their games. That way, the source code can be updated and optimized more frequently and all games regardless of how big the studio is will be able to implement these effects without having to worry about the code not running properly on one vendor's GPUs and what not.
This is such a mess! I watched a video of the PC version maxed out on YT and I have to say...the game doesn't look anything special at all. I don't think it looks much different from the Witcher 2.
Tessellation is improved alot on AMD. They are in pair since HD 5000/6000 series. I dont think thats the issue here.
While i agree that witcher 3 looks no better than witcher 2, despite being crazy amounts more demanding, i dont agree with your first statement.
If you go through reviews from other games, in more or less all the reviews, the 780 ti and 290x trade blows throughout.
Witcher 3 is one demanding game! Thanks for the review, and I'm looking forward to seeing your upcoming review on how mainstream cards perform at different quality settings - this is really what I'm interested in, gives me an idea how my card would perform!
However a quick look at the R9 285’s tessellation performance reveals that the situation isn’t exactly as Burke made out it to be. Based on tessellation performance alone, an R9 285 should see a comparable performance hit to the GTX 960 when enabling HairWorks.
However that’s not the case, not even remotely. The R9 285 actually sees a performance penalty that’s twice as bad as that seen on the GTX 960. And because CD Projekt Red and AMD are not allowed to work towards identifying and addressing the real culprit behind this poor performance in the game code we’re back to square one.
Nope Kepler has still faster tessellation. Although I agree it improved a lot since GCN series 7000 and now 290..
Compute ain't either 980 vs 780ti, especially once you start to OC Kepler
quick percentage by gaming and compute
To me it looks like they made the game in favor of Maxwell and crippled on the rest, its bundled with 960+ afterall lol, fail marketing.
Yeah, the brand specific games does nothing good for anyone in the end...
It seems my Kepler is dying and I need to upgrade my 680 SLI config. 40+ fps on ULTRA with hairworks on, but it crashes and drops to desktop randomly + sometimes driver stops responding. maybe it is drivers issue, I'm not sure.
Anyway- Waiting for 980 Ti
But how does that explain a 780Ti performing worse than a 290x?
I mean, I think we can all agree that gameworks is just ****ty, no one is really arguing that. The performance in the test here though, just doesn't make sense in regards to Kepler and Hairworks is off for this test.
This does seem likely, as in the nvidia guide, they ONLY mention Maxwell gpu's as in what gpu's you need to run what, unlike with previous games, where they just listed all the nvidia gpu's...
Because cf doesn't work..
Now lets see how things go with other upcoming titles. Question probably still remains in many peoples minds, Nvidia 'neglecting' kepler or has that arch seen its limits with newer games? The problem is that this is occurring on a gameworks title. If "neglect" (which I doubt), I will probably not buy an Nvidia card again.
Indeed. It would interesting to see how it performs in next couple of games. Even so, this started with FC4 and up till now, TW3 is only the worst one yet. Idk, seem so it can only go downhill from this...
absolutely agree with you
IMO, it's suspicious that Kepler started to fall behind in new games just after Maxwell was released.
im love the game it feels next gen and looks amazing im getting 70 fps ultra with hairworks on gtx 970 sli https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa9X7aSfNU8
I'd like to know what makes Maxwell perform so much better than Kepler in this. I don't believe in conspiracy theories.