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The RTX 2080Ti Thread

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by Netherwind, Aug 20, 2018.

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  1. Slinkyminx

    Slinkyminx Member Guru

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    The 2080 is barely a mid range card.

    In the end HISTORY SHOWS it doesn't matter what Nvidia can have there hardware do, raw power wise. You will get a calculated percentage increase each generation, depending on the market and competition prices. Nvidia are sitting on tech you can't even imagine - you just get cut down GPU's

    I have been a keen observer since my TNT2. I first started..... 'noticing things' after the Ti500 - I have never been interested in AMD or Nvidia having a variety inc 9800 Pro HD4870 Crossfire 280x Crossfire and an ABUNDANCE of Nvidia cards..... INC changing my 680 SLI to TITAN SLI.

    I have been around....

    BIGGEST thing I see happening rn, other than the usual yearly deception, is actually how far the performance/£ is just.... plummeting to comedic levels, as I mentioned previously.

    I think Nvidia keep catching a lot of new enthusiasts/enthusiasts with spare cash/people desperate for any ounce of extra 4k performance they can get tbh. There is unfortunately NO STOPPING them, Nvidia will win. WE will lose.

    I think.... we already have.
     
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  2. LuckyNumber8

    LuckyNumber8 Master Guru

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    Since I bought my first PC in 1999.

    But just recent example
    GTX 980 - 28nm - 4.6 tflops
    GTX 2080 - 14nm - 10 tflops
    So in 7nm process node Nvidia can very possibly develop even 20 tflops card, and GPU like that will run 4K 60fps easily.

    EDIT- it looks like AMD will launch 20 tflops GPU at the end of 2018, so if they can do it, then Nv can also do it.
    https://wccftech.com/amd-confirms-new-7nm-radeon-graphics-cards-launching-in-2018/
     
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  3. SerotoNiN

    SerotoNiN Ancient Guru

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    I just paid $1,200 for a comic book that's in terrible condition but valued very high, even in said condition. $700 is rather inexpensive considering my hobbies. I'm assuming you're in your 20's and just bitter you can't afford one. I speak from experience. I was that tool 15 years ago blasting everyone that got the latest and greatest because I couldn't. When you get older, build a career and have little debt, you can do these things. And finally, like every troll, you skipped over the main point I stated that you conveniently ignored to be able to go on your rant. IT'S A PREORDER THAT CAN BE CANCELED. No money has left my account. No money leaves my account until the card ships. Benchmarks will be out before the card leaves the warehouse. If performance sucks, I hit this button they have "cancel". Does wonders.


    Forgot all about the RAM. Thank you. That's annoying. Nvidia seems to be treating the 2080 more like a 2070 and the ti more like what we would expect from a 2080. Looking more and more like I'll stick with what I have. Blah.
     
  4. HeavyHemi

    HeavyHemi Ancient Guru

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    Okay, besides your baseless anti Nvidia rant, please tell us you needed that inferior gaming performance Vega for something professional. I think you just posted a troll post is what I think.
     
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  5. Slinkyminx

    Slinkyminx Member Guru

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    It's just good discussion and observation, don't stress too much boys, I think what I think, just sharing... for the record, I am very not alone and open eyes and ears are slowly becoming more in abundance.

    Shout out to Jim.... HE KNOWS
     
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  6. XenthorX

    XenthorX Ancient Guru

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    when will we see the first reviews for the new cards? any idea?
     
  7. HeavyHemi

    HeavyHemi Ancient Guru

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    Depending upon what rumor you believe, ~ 2 or 3 weeks.
     
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    Memorian Ancient Guru

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    NVIDIA confirmed that the reviews will go online 14/9.
     
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  9. Dragam1337

    Dragam1337 Maha Guru

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    Source ?
     
  10. Spets

    Spets Ancient Guru

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    Came across this on Pierre Terdiman's blog which I found interesting, thought I'd share it:

    http://www.codercorner.com/blog/?p=2013
    First half is about the false claims people have been bringing up about PhysX since the new cards have come out, second half is about the lack of knowledge with raytracing.
     
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  11. yasamoka

    yasamoka Ancient Guru

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    What the f***?

    Where is your evidence for this? You don't have a shred of it and you obviously do not understand how fabrication processes and wafer yields work. There is nothing magical whatsoever about what Intel, AMD, Nvidia, Qualcomm, or Samsung are building. It's not alien technology. There are real issues that need to be dealt with the further we slim down those transistors. Go learn about these issues before whipping out baseless conspiracy theories.

    What IS your point from all this rambling.
     
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  12. angelgraves13

    angelgraves13 Maha Guru

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    Seems 7nm Ampere will be out in 2020. They’re saying 34% more performance and 65% less power.

    Still 2 years off though... RTX on that will be a killer, especially if they speed it up another 6X for Ampere.

    All rumors though...but makes perfect sense.
     
  13. Slinkyminx

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    You're one of the more knowledgeable posters on this forum and I have been reading your posts, learning from yoru posts, and conversing with you since I had my HD4870 Crossifre a good while a go, but if you do not clearly see the 2080 is a mid range card (no, no of course it's not marketed that way....) then I can not help you man, or if I could, this is a dead end vs people who don't even WANT to know the real truth so, I am going to get on with my relaxing Sunday morning.

    In the end... it's all moot, anyway.

    I mean, I could pay £400 now, and get PRETTY MUCH the same performance as when I paid £400... two years ago.

    This is hideous.
     
  14. LuckyNumber8

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    If 7nm AMD GPU will really push 20tflops at the end of 2018 as leaks suggest, then maybe Nv will speed up ampere launch because I think 20tflops GPU from AMD will crush 2080ti very easily
    https://wccftech.com/amd-confirms-new-7nm-radeon-graphics-cards-launching-in-2018/
     
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    tflops do not correlated to fps, or have people totally forgotten all those years of radeons with high numbers and low gaming performance....
     

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    Yup, he talks alot of sense imo, although it doesn't change the fact they are still ridiculously expensive!
     
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  17. yasamoka

    yasamoka Ancient Guru

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    How about you explain why the 2080 is suddenly a midrange card?
     
  18. pharma

    pharma Maha Guru

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    Nvidia's statement of 1 gigaray/s for GP102 was recently confirmed using the fallback method (since DXR is not supported in current drivers).
    Hopefully reviewers use this test on AMD and Nvidia cards to arrive at gigarays per second results.

    Thanks for @Voxilla for running the test.
     
  19. LuckyNumber8

    LuckyNumber8 Master Guru

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    On the same architecture more tflops equals more fps. But of course here we are talking about different architectures (AMD vs GPU architecture differences), and AMD tflops real performance is not equivalent to Nv tflops. For example AMD 5870 had 2x more tflops compared to Nv GTX 480, yet both cards were comparable performance wise. But that was many years ago and since then AMD improved their tflops performance a lot, and that gap is very close currently. 20 tflops and even better architecture will make AMD GPU extremely fast, and maybe that's why Nv is rushing with 2080ti because they know 2080ti will be not performance king for long (normaly they would just release GTX 2080, but not 2080ti at the same time).
     
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