Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by Netherwind, Aug 20, 2018.
nvlink info will be provided when the nda lifts
Well RTX is completely new, and drivers are still being finished - i am almost willing to bet that going forward, nvidia will be blocking the use of the RTX cores by anything other than their own proprietary RT software.
I still can't believe that... I mean, if it's true, it's a worthy upgrade... might pull me in anyway... but until I see benchmarks I'm not even going to click a preorder that I could cancel.
It's just a cop out by Nvidia, again. with 4K becoming very common Nvidia are literally crying they had to do something to take the attention away from high res high details high FPS gaming, or they would have to release ahead of schedule. They already had to step it up a notch with the 10 series, there answer was simple. 50% price increase which some how not many people noticed the lunacy of that. The lunacy of all this. Nvidia trick people and mess with peoples minds, the people that DEFEND or fanboy them are the ones which fall for it.
I had 980Ti SLI a 1080 and then a 1080 Ti, however, I cannot do it anymore, I can;t bring myself to give them any money - I just can't.
AMD and Freesync for me now. Time to take a stand.
Exactly, but even if it is a SEMI DECENT step up, in good old fashioned frame rate, I am sure you have noticed you're just..... paying more.
To see what Nvidia do, there is one simple thing to look at, which somehow everyone doesn;t notice, and that's performce/$ (Or performance/£ etc) THAT'S how Nvidia is screwing everyone right in plain sight.
I think prices will go up even more with every year, because it's much harder to shrink GPU's (they cant do it forever) and invent some new groundbreaking technologies that would increase performance. Right now 4K is becoming a new standard yet even 1080ti cant provide 60fps in every game. On 1080ti with 2GHz I couldnt play rise of the tomb raider maxed out at 60 fps (45-60fps) and I'm sure even 1200$ 2080ti will not run every game at 4K maxed out perfectly. So of course I understand why so many people would prefer more CUDA cores rather than RTX and tensor cores.
I think if it was conclusively 50% across the board, it would have been mentioned.
Many people are not pre ordering because of the lack of non RTX performance metrics, if that number were true, it would have been disclosed.
My guess is that it is 50% in one game if you are standing on your head with 2 fingers touching a table lamp, your underwear on backwards and a wooden spoon up your a$$.
Of course, we will just have to wait and see.
Tin spoon, tin spoon!
Yeah that's why I can't believe they're that good, they would have put those numbers into any presentations we've seen so far, there's a reason why they have a NDA in place for another two weeks.
Since pre-orders are actually shipped 6 days after reviews people can always cancel their order can't they? Or is there something I'm missing?
It seems Nvidia is quite confident of their product otherwise review date and availability date would coincide.
Suuure. Because they are a small company, they really don't have resources to make it proprietary from the start before working with all the developers on all these engines..
What? No, it's not a coprocessor. There are RT cores inside each SM along with the regular FP cores as well as the DL cores. How is this relevant to the scheduling difference between AMD GCN and Nvidia Kepler / Maxwell / Pascal? How exactly do you suggest this architecture become more parallel?
Eh? I thought pre-orders exceeded available inventory? Also, even if the performance difference was low (20% non-RTX) I think people would have still pre-ordered. The hype for the 20-series has been building all year long and there are always people who are willing to shell out to have the best (their e-peen demands it). I mean, if there are whales who are willing to pay thousands of dollars in pay-to-win loot boxes, then there are certainly enough people willing to pay a thousand dollars to have the best hardware.
Yah, you can cancel your pre-order and most places have a no-hassle return policy even if you receive the cards and decide you don't want them.
I still think they would have made more noise about an all encompassing 50% non RTX performance jump.
man I remember when I play 139$ for 9800gt, which was equivalent to xx80 series atlest back then, prices have gone insane since, not comparing performance here I comparing the series price back then to to same series equivalent today where prices are just crazy.
or maybe I seeing things wrong series wise. yes performance of the 9800gtx vs 1080gtx are night and day, but to they same series in my eye, just upgrade performance with jacked up prices.
The 9800GT was basically just a rebranded 8800GT with a die shrink hence why it was soo cheap. That particular generation didnt have a new GPU architecture it was just a die shrink if I remember correctly. GPU prices started to balloon on the next series after with the GTX 280 card when it launched at $650! lol
7nm production is going to be delayed for awhile....
Cyberpunk 2077 will support both real-time ray tracing and NVIDIA’s Hairworks
nvidia doesn't use GloFo for any of its gpu's, its either samsung Korea or TMSC Taiwan.
Seems like 1080p is the new 4K... a huge step backwards in resolution to accommodate the advances in real-time rendering (ray-tracing). Will their AI-enhanced anti-aliasing solution prove useful in these scenarios? Seems like I won't need to upgrade to a 4K monitor after all.
4k offer far better overall picture quality increase across the board compared to 1080p+RayTracing.
Raytracing is the future, however in its current iteration by the looks of it its too fresh, expensive and IMO not worth it yet.