The RTX 2080Ti thread (cont.)

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by Glidefan, Mar 31, 2019.

  1. serbicu

    serbicu Ancient Guru

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    Sorry to hear that dude. If you just want to play games, just don't OC, it does not bring that much of a difference is it? I mean I had my 2080ti OC and yeah had some more fps sure, but it's not that big of a deal really as i play 4k and not much of a difference.

    Ah.. and also forgot to mention my card died on me yesterday, got artefacts and one of the cooler stopped working lol. I never had a GPU die on me, and I had like at least 13 GPUs in 19 years of PC gaming lol.

    Now, I have the option to get a voucher of some 920 euros, and can only buy a new one from the same site, but, they only have a few options of 2080ti, and one of then is the one i think you have, the MSI gaming x trio right? (if I'm not mistaken), and seeing that you seem to have issues as well, not really sure what I should do.

    I mean, the other options that I have, are INNO3d, Gigabyte or again Palit like the one that died on me (not going with them again). They have no ASUS, no EVGA, just ZOTAC but only 2 models that I don't really like.

    What to do? I mean I don't want to buy some 2080 super , as I will lose some performance for sure. Or maybe buy whatever 2080ti and then hopefully in 6 months I can exchange it with 2080ti super, if it ever comes out that is.
     
  2. Netherwind

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    I would agree but 100MHz in the GPU world is not that little, especially if one is hunting those last FPS in a game to reach refresh rate cap. But...you are right that chasing those FPS is a bit tiresome and futile. I just wanted a "perfect" gaming experience but I guess it doesn't exist since hardware and games constantly change.

    If we talk about your problem and forget my issues with the Gaming X Trio...on paper it's supposed to be a kickass card since the cooler is one of the biggest on the market. Maybe I've just had bad luck with my latest two cards or maybe MSI has not been great with QC as of late. If you only have crap cards to choose from I would take the MSI one anyway since it's your best bet considering your choices :)

    We're still not sure about the 2080Ti Super and what gains it would give so maybe it's not worth waiting for something we don't even know exist. After all you need a card right now so yea, go for the best your store can offer :)
     
  3. serbicu

    serbicu Ancient Guru

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    Yeah I guess my choices are limited indeed, and you are right, I think I will go with the MSI trio then as the other maybe valid option that I have is the MSI seahawk x, 200 euros more for some hybrid water thingy, so not sure about that cooling solution.

    Thx for your thoughts on this, :) and let's hope that your card will regain its "strength" after that new change of GPU paste. Saw in the other thread, that someone did exactly the same thing with the same card and it worked like magic. Not sure I will do it in the future, if I decide to go with the same GPU, since it will void my warranty for sure.
     
  4. Netherwind

    Netherwind Ancient Guru

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    I would always recommend an AIO version but in this case it's different. I've read reviews on the SeaHawkX and another similar 120mm solution and the results were underwhelming to say the least. I would expect temps at max 50C (a full custom water loop goes even cooler) but these 120mm seem too small for the beast 2080Ti chip. inno3D on the other hand has some iChill version with a 240mm rad that seems to perform really great (as you would expect). So yea, HawkX is not worth 200€ since the cooling performance isn't that great and the temps obviously matter quite a lot when OCing.

    Thanks mate, I hope so too :) I'll make an attempt tomorrow.
     
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  5. fantaskarsef

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    Only in relation to 50C temps: My custom loop is running 2x480 rads for CPU and 1x2080TI GPU... I have 43°C max temp on my GPU, never seen more, and that's considered high by some ( ;) @jura11 ). But even there I'm mostly voltage / power limited... so cooling's not everything, the BIOS does help too. So better always check the BIOS max W on Techpowerup or such sites. At least that's what I think about it these days.
     
  6. jura11

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    Hi there

    I would first try replacing TIM and check again temperatures if this does help, I would thought so this would help a bit, depending on TIM used

    Few guys tried as well replacing thermal pads which can help as well but not sure if this helps in yours case, I replaced thermal pads twice on friend build which this helped a bit with better temperatures and OC but not as much as I thought so

    If you power limited then yes BIOS with higher power limit will definitely help you hold the clocks in games where are you hitting power limit, if its helps with better OC, maybe yes,but this higher power limit didn't helped me with better OC only I can sustain higher clocks in games or benchmarks etc

    Over on Techpowerup you can check every BIOS what power limit have, I think 380-400W is probably best BIOS for gaming and benchmarks, with Galax 380W BIOS I never hit power limit, with Asus RTX 2080Ti Matrix BIOS this I have seen in few games like Control or older games and I play in 3440x1440 Ultrawide

    Just double check what XUSB FW you have on yours MSI RTX 2080Ti Gaming because what I remember few people have issues with flashing BIOS because there has been different XUSB FW, not sure if tgis would be case but double check that, never run to any issues with flashing BIOS on my GPUs

    Usually with higher power limit BIOS you will have stable clocks or will hold clocks for bit longer in games or benchmarks etc, this is biggest benefit of higher power limit BIOS

    Regarding the airflow, you can try compare fans but don't think stock Fractal Design fans would outperform Noctua, Fractal Design fans are not the best, they're quiet but that's it there

    Regarding the undervolt GPU, this I only done few times but usually when I do rendering but usually I leave like is it because my temperatures and clocks are good

    @serbicu

    Sorry to hear about your GPU mate, something similar happened to me, bought three Palit RTX 2080Ti for customer builds and all three failed(as in yours case space invaders), all of them Amazon replaced and tried all of them how they OC, hopefully they will last lot longer, if they fails then I will be asking for refund and get different ones

    Zotac are not bad just they don't OC a lot, MSI similarly,they're usually OC similarly to Zotac, have few friends with Gigabyte RTX 2080Ti Aorus and they usually OC pretty good there, my Asus RTX 2080Ti Strix OC pretty good and which one I would choose, probably Gigabyte there


    Hope this helps

    Thanks, Jura
     
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  7. serbicu

    serbicu Ancient Guru

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    Hei Jura, so you would go with Gigabyte huh? never had any of their GPUs. From the list below, I have 2 options, the Aorus or the Aorus Xtreme. Which you you recommend? And btw, how's the quality from Gigabyte ?

    I am not planning in OC the next 2080ti since I think that, for this particular GPU, even a tiny OC will damage the card in some way or another. Read that a lot of peoples cards died within 5 to 6 months of purchase.

    Here's what I can buy from the shop: https://www.mindfactory.de/Hardware/Grafikkarten+(VGA)/GeForce+RTX+fuer+Gaming/RTX+2080+Ti.html

    I was thinking getting that Inno3D Ichill, read some reviews about it, and looks pretty solid, and can easy stay between 1930-1995 without OC. I know also that with these RTX cards it's more of a lottery nowadays, and no card it's future proof. I really miss those days when you bought a GPU, and no matter how much you "thrash it", that card was still going strong :D .


    Like Netherwind said, I just want to play games, and not worry about other things lol, and I am not into tweaking anymore, as I have other priorities ,and my time for gaming is well planned in my schedule, and limited as it is.

    The older I get, I envy somehow the console gamers, as they just start the console, play, and then go about their business lol. But....the 20+ years love affair that I keep having with PC gaming is too strong for me to bail out at this point..I'm doomed in that regard lol :D I can only see the face of my Wife everytime she sees me playing PC games lol.
     
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  8. Netherwind

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    I've got some Kryonaut so I'll try that first. It's supposed to be so great and I bought a 1g but I sure like my Arctic Silver 5. Way easier to spread since it's more compact.

    Yea, I was actually looking at thermal pads in my local shop since I though about that too, especially if they break when I remove the cooler.

    MSI has one unofficial 400W Gaming X Trio BIOS from Russian Customer Service which I perhaps could try.

    What does XUSB FW mean?

    You misunderstood, I wrote that I've got Noctua fans in all fan slots at the moment :) Noctua NF-P14s redux-1200 to be exact.
     
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  9. jura11

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    Hi there

    I used 2* Gigabyte GTX1080Ti Aorus Extreme in SLI previously on friend build and must admit these cards OC pretty good, both have been stable with 2100MHz and never have issues with them, friend still running them

    I think Gigabyte have 4 years warranty which is good, build quality is good, they always have most overkill or rather overbuilt PCB similarly I would say have Asus RTX 2080Ti Strix have similarly best PCB

    I'm just disappointed by new RTX 2080Ti Aorus Extreme temperatures, I just thought so it will have good temperatures by looks like it have higher temperatures because their heatsink use Axial fans, spoke with friend and he have Aorus Extreme and his temperatures are in 70's and fans are very loud above 80%

    Inno3D iChill does look like great card, 240mm radiator does help with better temperatures, 120mm is just enough for RTX 2080Ti, I would expect something like mid 50's to low 60's with 240mm radiator, just what bothers me I never owned anything from Inno3D, don't know warranty and quality from Inno3D, its for me unknown there

    Silicon lottery plays big role in OC and too if its with Samsung or Micron memories, personally I'd get with Samsung memories there

    Which GPU get, Inno3D iChill does look like great GPU on paper and should have good temperatures with 240mm radiators

    Hope this helps

    Thanks, Jura
     
  10. jura11

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    Hi there

    I usually use like Noctua NT-H1 abd Kryonaut on GPUs, with both have good experience, Kryonaut have used like on my Asus RTX 2080Ti Strix and no issues, although lately I started to use Thermalright TFX on GPUs and CPU, seems is bit better than Kryonaut

    I would give a try this 400W BIOS,wish something similar is for Asus RTX 2080Ti Strix too, 400W would be just perfect BIOS for me

    I don't think you will have issues with XUSB as you are never updated BIOS, newer XUSB firmware is not compatible with older XUSB and if you are try update BIOS or flash different BIOS you will get error in Nvflash,this shouldn't concern you there

    If you will have issues with this, just check few threads over on OCN

    Hope this helps

    Thanks, Jura
     

  11. serbicu

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    Ok, thx Jura for your input on this, will make a decision pretty soon, then will see what card I will get :D

    Man, I keep looking at that empty space in my case! What a sad view ! lol
     
  12. nhlkoho

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    120mm AIO works fine for my founders edition. I bought the EVGA kit a few months back and it lowered my temps from 75C under load to 48-50C. Running 3DMark stress test it got up to 52C but I've never seen it that high while gaming. I don't have the most aggressive overclock on mine but I was mainly concerned with the fan noise from the stock cooler. I imagine it's much easier to install on a 3rd party card though. The FE had like 40 screws to take the thing apart.
     
  13. insp1re2600

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    Felt how hot it gets where the pipes connect to the radiator during gaming?
     
  14. MMXMMX

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    In a few hours the postman will deliver the ( Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, 11GB, Wind ) but i want some info about it but can not find any reviews ore videos about it .

    1150 euro In Holland The Netherlands
     
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    Bit risky I would check first the reviews and then make a choice and buy fyi

    ps WINDFORCE = 3X Cooling System with alternate spinning fans

     
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  16. MMXMMX

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    It just got delivered so PC is going to shut down and i will be back soon :)
    OMG OMG Cant wait to start Control on 1440p Max :)
     
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    Happy gaming man :)
     
  18. MMXMMX

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    Thanks
    Control is running fine the 2080 TI is great .
    I did set a fan curve in MSI Afterburner i like it cool :)
    I do not like to overclock because this is fast inn of

    Fire strike extreme : 8577
    That must be fine ?
     
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    If your temps are good, go for an OC and push it :) That alone is pretty fun when getting a new card to see its absolute limitations.
     
  20. serbicu

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    Congrats! enjoy max settings man! I still have to replace my late Palit card, but have to wait until I'll be back from vacation :D
     

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