The RTX 2080 Thread

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by JoonyDoom, Sep 18, 2018.

  1. illdrag0n

    illdrag0n Master Guru

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    My experience was power. Went away with an 850w psu in single rail mode, and 2 seperate PCIE pins (not split)
     
  2. fr33k

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    i have a 1200watt power supply, i don't think its insufficient. I am using 2 separate PCIE pins. Also so far it mostly happens on unity... maybe unity is just buggy.
     
  3. Kolt

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    I'm happy to say that I just put my order in today for this Gigabyte RTX 2080 Windforce. Comes with a free PSU (although I don't need it). I was on the fence about this since I am coming from a 1070 Strix, but at 1440/144hz I wanted a little more power to push frame rates towards that 120+fps/Hz sweet spot. I was considering a 1080ti, but the price is close enough (new, I won't buy used..) that it wouldn't make sense getting 2 year old tech that doesn't have the new RTX/AI tech, regardless of the lack of real benchmarks and Ray Tracing at the moment. Considering the potential of DLSS it was just too hard to pass. Even if ray tracing kills the performance on it's own, we should be able to use DLSS (as far as I understand DLSS works for 1440p as well) to regain a lot of that lost performance. Either way, I'm happy with my purchase and I can't wait for it to come in! I'm putting my 1070 into my SO's rig so no real lost there (going from a 970 to 1070).
     
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    So I don't know if this is the right place to bring this up. If not, please tell me the right place and I'll post there instead.
    I got a Gigabyte Geforce RTX 2080 (GV-N2080GAMINGOC-8GC) the other day and installed it and installed the newest drivers 416.34. There didn't seem to be any problems with the card as such, but that changed when I started up a 3d game or a 3d application. Then the fans started spinning up to 100% and they didn't go lower than the 100% even though I quit the 3d game or the 3d application. It would stop when I shut down my pc. When I started my pc up again I noticed that I couldn't hear the fan at all and I looked at the 3 fans and they were not moving at all.
    Another thing that I noticed was that, when the fans ran 100% it was only the two of them and not all three.
    I have tried setting the fans up manually (MSI Afterburner 4.6.0 Beta 9, EVGA Prcision X1 0.3.2 Beta, Gigabyte Aorus Engine 1.42), but even though I set the curve properly, the fans don't aknowledge these settings. Its like I have no control over the fans at all. I've read that this is a problem for a lot of people with these card and it's not just Gigabyte, but Asus and MSI and even the Founders Edition.
    My question is this, do any of you know if there is a fix on its wat or is this maybe hardware related?
     

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    Soon as I read this I went and played Battlefield 1 same crash happened to me. Damn you! I updated my power from 600W to a new EVGA 750W so I do not think power it is the problem. I also have seen rare artifacts and also stuttering. Hoping it is drivers. Still waiting to see RTX On.
     
  6. fr33k

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    no fan problems here.

    i haven't had any problems on bf1, stuttering occurs for me when i first get the game running but it sorta goes away and never happens again the longer i play.
    the driver crash was only on unity and i haven't had problems with syndicate, rise of the tomb raider or wolfenstein new order. I was however able to reproduce this error 10 times in a row by having something streaming while playing unity. I guess firefox doesn't agree with unity so i closed firefox and never saw the error again.
     
  7. illdrag0n

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    i had that error, and it was definately the power supply. Only went away when i went to an 850w single rail unit. Don't forget to run 2 seperate PCIE power cables to the card, as it will choke out a single splitter cable.
     
  8. Kolt

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    I got my 2080 yesterday and experienced one crash so far similar to this with a driver stopped responding but haven't had any issues yet. I really hope it isn't a PSU requirement, as even the GPU I bought came with only a 650 watt. I already had a 650 watt and researched before buying my 2080 and found that 650 watt should be more than enough. I am currently running the GPU off one PSU cable that has a y cable/split on it, so if it happens again I may just plug in a second dedicated GPU power slot as opposed to one y cable to see if that helps, but I still don't think the issue is due to raw lack of power and needing a beefier PSU. Even Hilbert recommends 600 for 2080 and 650 for 2080ti. (https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/geforce-rtx-2080-ti-founders-review,9.html). Of course with overclocking and beefier systems he suggest a higher PSU, but I still think 650 should be enough for a single 2080/8700k OCd.
     
  9. illdrag0n

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    Try the 2 cables. The 2080 will overdraw a single pcie 18awg cable and your system won't like it
     
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  10. Kolt

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    Yeah, I'll go ahead and do this. I guess there's no point in waiting for another crash.
     

  11. -Tj-

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    ^
    Don't use any spliters or converters. Those can cripple current a bit, or make it more "dirty".
    Could be driver controlling issue, could also be bios issue. Or bios is ok and nvidia needs to add your bios to driver database..
    I've seen when they collected 980TI bioses, mostly or only for custom gpus - for fan and voltage info.


    is F5 your latest bios? If not then update it as well.
    https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N2080GAMING-OC-8GC#support-dl-bios

    I would first report a bug to nvidia driver team @ManuelG or open a ticket at main Nvidia site, then open a ticket by Gigabyte.



    btw; fan shuts off bellow 60C by default, that's why it didn't spin when you checked it out, by 60C it should normally start to accelerate to that said temperature target, in your case it auto hits 100% when gpu hits 60C.
     
  12. JoonyDoom

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    Turned out my crash in Battlefield 1 was driver problem in DX 12. Switched to DX 11 problem gone.
     
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  13. illdrag0n

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    something quickly found;

    https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-card-power-supply-balance,3979-6.html

    Looking at the interface to the PSU itself is even more interesting. Everything terminates at a single six-pin connector. Even though the power supply's specifications state that this connector is rated at 20A (240W), and the PSU does shut off, just as it should, beyond that number, a pair of eight-pin connectors on the other end suggest 300W. Simply, this isn't possible due to the multi-rail PSU’s OCP, making the cable configuration all bark and no bite. Unfortunately, the kind of problems shown here reappear in many variations with other PSUs and their cables.

    Usually, combined cables like these should, at the very least, have a solid eight-pin connector on the PSU. A good example is depicted below. The manufacturer decided to go with all-black cables for aesthetics. This doesn’t matter to you or I, but the manufacturer incurs higher failure rates because the cables are harder to distinguish and identify correctly.

    The ideal would actually be to just have an individual cable for each PCIe power connector. That's eliminate all of the problems posed by too-high currents and fast load fluctuations in one fell swoop. AWG 16 cables with a pair of eight-pin connectors and at least eight-pole PSU connectors fall in the same category of supremely usable.

    Also, the max power for one of those cables is 150w + 75w (PCIE) = 225w. GPU-Z reads my card power draw over that often whilst gaming
     
  14. illdrag0n

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    Yeah they are different. Most PSU's come with an 18 AWG pigtail like you linked.
     
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  15. Kolt

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    ^ That's what I was using. Pigtail.

    Anyone mess with the auto overclock feature for these cards yet? I don't see the ability in Afterburner, but the Gigabyte software that came with my card had that option. Auto anything always makes me a bit nervous..
     

  16. -Tj-

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    No dont use that on single for both connectors on gpu, use each pcie from own psu pcie connector.
     
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  17. illdrag0n

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    Yeah i leave mine in OC mode (1800mhz boost), but if you watch the clocks in GPU-Z it's actually boosting up to 1920mhz. Seems to be fairly common from the reviews and threads i've read.
     
  18. Kolt

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    Awesome, thanks!
     
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    Has anyone seen a review of the EVGA Geforce RTX 2080 FTW3 anywhere?

    Took a bit of a look and can't find any.

    If anyone has seen one, please lmk.

    Cheers :)
     
  20. MegaLee67

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    You would be wasting your money at that resolution. Stick with the 1070 until you get a 4k monitor.
     

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