The "Occupy" phenomenon.

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  1. Repo Man

    Repo Man Ancient Guru

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    'tis a fun place this modern world...

    Banks over here wont let me open an account and across the pond you get arrested for trying to close it.

    I'll just stash my pennies under my matress from here on.

    also, The Beatles say hai!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is_1wLzNPBg
     
  2. Xendance

    Xendance Ancient Guru

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    So wait, you like how losses are socialized (read: big bailouts by government when private companies **** up) and yet the profits go to the companies?
     
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    Chillin Ancient Guru

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    Absolutely not (though it's not like there was much choice).

    However, rioting and causing mass disorder is not going to solve anything. Look at Israel, they managed to have protests several times of over 250,000 people (nearly 5% of the population) in an orderly manner with clear goals and it worked. A commission was set up to find solutions to the demands and the solutions were/are being implemented.
     
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  5. JohnMaclane

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    You cannot compare getting a scholarship or grant to universal education.

    Its a known fact that in the US tertiary education is prohibitively expensive. So weather you hand out a dozen scholarships per school your still missing a crapload of perfectly young people which have to either make debt (if you come from a screwed home no chance in hell) or just forget about it.

    What about those who do not want to go to collage? are there trade schools supported by the state which can turn unskilled labour around?


    Also your healthcare costs conclusions do not make sense.

    Illegals come into the country use your healthcare for the basics and jack up the price on your premiums (because the insurance has to account for the lost profit by spreading it on the rest). True, however if there was a national system the amount of common collectable taxes attributed to healthcare (which can be derived from consumption based taxes so that everyone is paying including illegals) would mean cheaper health for everyone.

    If you add the fact that rich people still wouldn't use public hospitals means there is still room for the 'private' care to go on unabated (just like in Europe). At the end of the day you end up with a system which costs less and covers EVERYONE and ease of mind regarding healthcare is extremely important to me.

    The banks were NOT forced to do anything, they were making tonnes of money through the whole sham, don't you know how SEC and the presidents advisers are all Goldman Sachs? They were all aboard that merry go round together and they knew exactly what was happening (the bankers) and what where the risks (there are emails, proof and congressional investigations people have been taking much care about).

    For a country in which you are free doesn't it seem like how money dictates every aspect of how you live?

    No money = no good school unless your a super studious dude who gets a scholarship, a dude which has enough credit rating to maybe scratch by or a rich kid.

    No money = worrying about becoming bankrupt when sick, which to me is sickening.

    The below is an article from rolling stone (Interesting whistle blower story).

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/is-the-sec-covering-up-wall-street-crimes-20110817
     
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    It may seem like nothing to you; but it's a start. It's certainly more than what we've seen in the past. People are actually starting to get really pissed off at the amount of power the corporations wield.
     
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    those half-dead bankers should beat it and die already.
     
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    At least we have the balls to stand up and protest against the oligarchs.
     
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