The GTX 1070 Thread

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by Netherwind, May 31, 2016.

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  1. H83

    H83 Ancient Guru

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    Hi guys!

    So i´m gonna build a new rig in month´s time, after Zen´s release, and i´m thinking on buying a 1070 for it. The problem is that i don´t want to spend 500€ on a GPU!... Luckily, or not, there is a 1070 that costs "only" 440€, the MSI GTX1070 Armour OC. From what i read from the few reviews available, the Armour seems to be a cheap version of MSI´s gaming line and the biggest difference seems to be that the Armour only has an 8 power pin instead of the 8+6 power pins of the gaming cards.

    It seems a solid card still i would like to know your opinion about this model and if any of you has bought one of these cards so you can tell me your experience with it.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Twiddles

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    Main differences are the fans and less heatpipes (besides clocks etc, doesn't matter anyway). PCB seems to be different but it won't matter much with Pascal, sadly. More phases doesn't mean higher clocks etc. Unless the community/devs come up with a Pascal editor it won't matter, even then it's only going to be useful for <1% of the owners.
     
  3. Solfaur

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    I'm on my third generation of GPUs from MSI, all were great. I'm not sure if this particular model uses a TwinFrozr cooler type though, because imo that is the best feature with MSI cards.
     
  4. DeathAngel74

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    I was having trouble reaching a stable overclock on my eVGA 1070 SC since i have Micron VRAM=pewp!
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    My old overclock flopped between 2100/2025/2088/2037, etc. Only +363 on the memory. 112% power limit
    I was getting so frustrated so I did some research on different reference card/power/VRM phases. I did something crazy. I flashed the ASUS STRIX OC vBIOS to my 1070SC.
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    Now I'm stable at 2075MHz/4415MHz(8830 effective, +822). 120% power limit
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    http://cdn.overclock.net/4/43/438be2d6_stable.PNG
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    I realize that I could have ended up with a paperweight, but it was worth it for the peace of mind.

    @Solfaur
    This is also my third generation of eVGA cards. Even after the thermal pad/vrm issues. My card is not effected due to it being a BestBuy special. I think I will try another AIB partner next time though, power limit is really low on the 1070 SC.
     
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  5. slyphnier

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    thanks for the info
    if i close all active programs listed on "nvidia gpu active list"
    it clock down to 139mhz

    seems somethings (either driver or programs) sometimes stucks
    suspecting flash player the source of issue, since i am watching streaming on browser lots
    good things is the temp barely different between on 608mhz and 139mhz
     
  6. tensai28

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    Sorry if this has been mentioned before but I found out the limiting factor on my overclock. It's the voltage. The voltage seems to be messed up on pascal and even raising it to max voltage on afterburner really doesn't do much of anything which would explain why I saw zero affect in increasing stability going from 0 to 100% voltage. What we need is a way to modify or unlock the voltage in bios.
     
  7. tensai28

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    This is very interesting. Would you mind sharing the exact bios you flashed to? Feeling kind of brave.
     
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  9. tensai28

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    I didn't know that. So in that case, my current bios would be almost the same if not better for overclocking? I was only able to get it stable at +50 core (2050mhz) and +500 memory. Performance is good at 1440p but I'm just about 3-5fps away from being able to max things out at 60fps. I was hoping to get a little more out of my oc.
     
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  10. DeathAngel74

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    try enabling triple buffering and fast sync, instead of regular vsync=90-120fps
     

  11. tensai28

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    Thanks for the suggestion but doing so makes my fps go all over the place. I prefer to have a smooth 60fps when gaming so I always enable vsync. My fps is only dropping to the 50s on certain demanding titles and I can just lower a setting to fix that so it's not that big of a deal. If I could find some way to just get a few more fps out of my oc, then I could max everything out.
     
  12. DeathAngel74

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    The lowest I get in TW3 is 110 in heavily populated towns, the highest is 133 in forests. I get a steady 90 in Batman Arkham Knight. I get 115-124 playing Star Wars Battlefront 2015 online.
     
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  13. tensai28

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    In what resolution and what kind of settings? I'm gaming in 1440p and while most games play well, games like far cry primal I have to turn off AA to keep 60, mirrors edge catalyst I have to turn off HBAO+ and use SSAO. Both of these titles with those settings not turned down are only dropping to the mid 50s but I have to say it's noticeable when going from a smooth 60 to mid 50s.
     
  14. DeathAngel74

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    lame fullhd 1080p Samsung 40in.
     
  15. tensai28

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    That explains it then. I was on a 1080p monitor as well when I first bought card. The 1070 would easily crush any game at 1080p max settings. I'd go so far as to say it's overkill right now at 1080p if 60fps is your target. Now I'm on a 43 inch 4k uhdtv and at 1440p the card sometimes struggles at max settings (but not by much which is why I wish I could oc if further :bang:). 2160p 60fps is almost impossible unless the game is older or really non demanding.
     

  16. chispy

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    Well after testing and re-testing for a week to find my higher stable overclocks for all my games i have found my sweet spot. I got an average clocking :/ eVGA GTX 1070 SC with Micron memories on full cover EK water block 100% stable for all my games at 2113/2250Mhz (9000Mhz) , that provides enough power to play all my games at the moment at 4K 60fps with some settings toned down , no complains here.
     
  17. Radical_53

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    I'm still tempted to use liquid metal on my GPU, but temps are very good already.
    I'd have to change the bios in order to edit the fan curve also, as otherwise all I'd win was warmer memory and voltage regulation.
     
  18. Fender178

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    I haven't done much tinkering with my replacement 1070 considering that I am getting decent speeds with max power limit and Voltage and no additional overclock applied to the core or mem. My card OC to over 2000mhz. And I am playing games via DSR @4K with no issues at all.

    Also can you share your offset settings for core and mem ex +105 core +105 mem.
     
  19. chispy

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    I have installed a different Bios on my evga gtx 1070 sc black edition acx3.0 , now i'm using MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X Bios and it did give me better overclocking results than the crippled standard evga stock bios with only 112 power limit cap. As before i was able to run only at 2100/2052Mhz but the core clocks were always jumping up and down from 2100 - 2088 -1996 - 1887 :( , that was caused by the power limit of only 112 with the stock bios of evga , i would always hit a power limit and the video card downclocks itself a lot and all the time.

    This Bios ( Asus Gaming X = https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/187158/msi-gtx1070-8192-161024 ) as you can see the power limit slider goes all the way up to 126 :) , now i have a solid pegged 2113/2250(9000)Mhz at all times in all my games and it never ever downclocks or moves while gaming , 2113/2250 solid always 100% stable, but bare in mind i'm using a high end custom water cooling loop and the card is on full cover EK water block using Gelid GC eXtreme thermal paste and i upgraded the thermal pads with Fujipoly ones , right now my absolute max temperatures after 4~5 hours of gaming non stop Forza Horizon 3 at 4K 60Hz 60fps and the gpu at 100% usage is 38c , it has never gone over that temperature.

    Here is what you ask for my friend:

    I tested for a whole week this settings and that was my maximum stable 100% overclock for all my games and what i use daily , i got an average overclocker gtx 1070:


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    Here is at +105 core +105 mem



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  20. Fender178

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    Nice thanks. I may use the MSI BIOS since I have FTW edition card I have a dual BIOS switch on my card so in case something screws up I have a back up plan. Makes me wonder what results I can get with with 14 more percent on the Power limit. Since I get 2012 on the core with 112. Plus I got Samsung memory as well.
     
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