The AMD Ryzen All In One Tread /Overclocking/Memory Speeds & Timings/Tweaking/Cooling

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards AMD' started by chispy, Feb 22, 2017.

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  1. T0mate

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    I note yesterday that my memory configuration is CR2 now and was CR1 with previous bios version.
    I search the option in the bios and can't find it anywhere. Maybe this is one of the reason my memory wan't post any higher.
     
  2. Clouseau

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    Aida64 and CPU-z still shows my command rate still at CR1.

    The XMP profile is rated at CR2 so should not be a factor in how fast the ram can be clocked at.
     
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    Well the new bios update from asus to the x370 prime with the new agesa is **** now it will not even post at previous 2666 mhz speed
     
  4. chispy

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    Cold boots requiring multiple tries means the system goes into memory training to be able to post. Yep i get black screen hard locked screens too if voltage is too low :D during overclocking test.

    100% correct OnnA , more voltage is needed to get pass the black screens hard lock , usually cpu v.core voltage.

    If you want to get the best overclocking performance out of your Ryzen platform do not be afraid to push more voltage to get a stable system as long as you keep your temperatures on check i have found out Ryzen can take increased voltages very well and cope with it.

    Bare in mind this is the very first update to the Agesa microcode from AMD ,a very small one that is , the big one that will change a lot of things comes very soon in May , a lot more will change on that big Agesa microcode. We will have to patiently wait for it , but i can re assure you it is coming soon.

    Thank you for the correct in detail explanation , that is correct 100%.

    Maybe you guys can flash back to older Bios until a more stable Bios comes out , i am not sure how you do it on the X370 prime board , maybe someone with that board can do a write up on how to do it if possible or not.

    That's a very interesting find indeed , so flashing back to 0502 and 0511 it's a no go and confirm. Thank you for that feedback.
     

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    hi all -

    have built a RYZEN rig with a Gigabyte GA - AB350M - GAMING 3. So far so good. It took 1 stick of memory to get me sytsem up as it did not like 2! But updated the bios and all is well. Chuffed to bits with this board so far. 3 fan headers and the back panel plate, the pad type, not the tacky bendy bits of metal . My first board was a asus micro with only 2 fan headers and it felt .... Giga have come up trumps compared to asus in the micro dept!
     
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    Oh my, please do us some benchmarks. And test some games, if it makes difference in CPU bound situations.

    Thank You!
     
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    I ran some benches after I saw that. It had no affect. Will post the captures when get home. But, think it boils down to me being a smart a$$ and Aida64 and the AI Suite not talking to each other properly. It is akin to that sleep bug that Ryzen appeared to be running at a faster speed but really was not.

    EDIT: Going to run benches with just the settings in the bios and then run them again with AI Suite active when get home tonight just to make sure.

    Chispy: I am literally not able to flash back to previous bios versions. Mentioned on the last page or the page before that when had flashed to 0515, was not able to flash back to a previous version. Now that I had flashed to 0604 was surprised to find that bios 0515 was ok but 0502 through 0511 were still not. Those version throws a message "This is not a proper bios image." I appear to be the only one because Webhiker stated he was able to flash back to previous versions when we were on version 0515.

    EDIT II: that new setting ProcODT, the default setting is auto. My understanding is that the accepted default value for the termination is 53.3 Ohms.
     
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  8. Gigabytes

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    Well 0604 bios was basically a rough ride for me, then it threw me and gave a hoof to the head resulting in a corrupted windows stuck in a repair loop. I think that bios version is possessed. Like someone stated, it seems Asus just tossed it out to say they had a new bios.

    I went back to 0515 with no issues.

    I have no issues flashing any bios version. I know if you use a usb it will give you the not a proper bios error. I basically throw all my bios files into the root of my system drive then flash from the bios itself.

    When I upgrade the graphics this summer (to Vega Xfire) I will replace the mobo (if Asus has not got this sorted out) with whatever is best, then add a custom loop. Guess memory replacement may be in the future also.

    Just need to pitch probably another $2500 CDN to the wife which is easier said then done. I am hoping she wants something over the next few months that I can use my pitch on. She is a teacher so will be off most of the summer. I will put some 6 week Pacific cruise brochures in the mailbox for her to find then I'll suggest she take the cruise and relax..... but btw I'm going to blow another 2500 on my computer while your off enjoying your cruise. :D
     
  9. Clouseau

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    As Asked, here are the results of the some benches with and without Ai Suite active:
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    As can be seen there is no difference in the benches except for the Aida64 memory bench. Since the cache was similarly effected, there should have been more of a difference. That is why I think Aida64 and Ai Suite do not work well together.
     
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    Tried by putting the bios files in the root section of the drive. Still getting the "This is not a proper bios file." Even tried by placing the files on a very old 128MB usb stick. It is the same pattern 0502,0504, and 0511 are a no go but 0515 is recognized as a proper bios file.
     

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    Did you try going back in steps, 0604 > 0515 > 0511 > 0504 >0502 ?
     
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    Was not able to flash to previous versions ever since flashed 0515. Till 0604 was released, was stuck on 0515.
     
  13. AsiJu

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    Oh what the heck... bought me some items :p

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    ^ Nice. Have fun with your new puppy :}
     
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    Congrats on all of your new builds... Making me itchy but daddy needs a new 4K and GPU to push it first. :p
     

  16. AsiJu

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    Thanks!

    It's OT (again, sorry :p) but I'll naturally sell my current parts (mobo+CPU and cooler+RAM).
    How much do you think would be a fair asking price? The CPU cooler is Zalman CNPS10X Performa with FD Venturi HP-120-PWM fan (replaced the Zalman original as it became noisy=failing bearing).
     
  17. w0nderz

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    I'd say like 250€ CPU+MB / 150€ RAM+Cooler
     
  18. Knighter

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    Guys, what are your opinions on the stock Wraith Spire cooler? I checked my Coolermaster Hyper TX3 EVO on my old board and it seems to be compatible with AM4. So stock Wraith or TX3? :)
     
  19. vase

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    I had a very good experience with my Spire on a 1700. Kept it at 50-60°C on load @ 3.6Ghz.
    Although I don't have many testing hours because I am actually waiting on another set of RAM because I currently have to run it with a old defective 4GB 2133Mhz module since I don't have anything else that's DDR4...
    But first impression is really good. And it's silent enough for me (apart from not being the very sensitive guy when it comes to fan noise though... after all i run OCd 270Xes in CFX :) )
     
  20. Ryu5uzaku

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    If nothing else you should be seeing some smoother gameplay and performance increase here and there in some games too. But best thing will be the whole experience of smoothness all around.
     
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