The AMD Ryzen All In One Tread /Overclocking/Memory Speeds & Timings/Tweaking/Cooling Part 2

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards AMD' started by vbetts, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. 386SX

    386SX Master Guru

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    :eek: about 600something bucks on Amazon currently. :eek:
    How much did you pay for it?

    I was waiting for some BeQuiet Dark Base 900 (non pro) to get cheaper, but only the Pro version got 30 Euros off ... I hate glass windows. ;)
     
  2. Evildead666

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    400€ (including 20% tax) with free delivery. ;)
    I got like 29€ off, so not huge discount, but discount none the less.

    edit : The Full One, with the secondary cooling case is around 600, thats the WP200 I think.

    found a Guru3D link :
    https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/t...-core-wp200-and-w200-super-tower-chassis.html
     
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  3. Clouseau

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    MSI apparently are the boards to have. No matter what cannot get CL14 stable. Just out of curiosity, what kit is being used? You might have stated before but cannot remember. How hot do the dimms get at CL14?
     
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    Well the kit is G.Skill Trident Z 16GB DDR4(F4-4000C18D-16GTZ) (2x8) and I must add I added a 80MM fan one year ago and temperatures are fine with fan since then.

    To answer your question CL14 3800Mhz @ 1.52v tops out at 35°C with mem test
    https://i.**********/j2vdb8cH/Tested-Ram-CL14-3800-Mhz-1-52v.png


    Tested temperatures one year ago ,with/without 80MM fan on ram for anyone interested
    25 Minute StressTest On DDR4 Ram Cooled Ram 10C+
    3200Mhz 1.36v 48.3C Max No Fan
    3200Mhz 1.36v 37.8C Max Cooling Fan
    3466Mhz 1.40v 38.5C Max Cooling Fan
     
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  5. 386SX

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    @gerardfraser :
    What ram cooler do you use? My RAM sticks are very stable in general, but go crazy after reaching 70 degrees celsius, otherwise I think I could get CL14 at 3600 MHz stable with ryzen gen1. But anything higher than 3400 CL14 gets unstable in the long term because of temps. I use the G.Skill Ripjaws btw.
     
  6. geronimo666

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    guys how do you get temps of the RAMs?
    Is it something that RAM needs to support/have sensors onbard or the mainboard?
    I don't get those temp on my asus x370 prime pro and aegis 3000 RAMs.

    Do you think I get enough air going thrue that area using my noctua cpu cooler with push/pull and 2 front intake 140mm fans on max when gaming?

    thanks.
     
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    Yup, it needs to have an sensor.
     
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  8. 386SX

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    Did anybody try running ECC memory and OC it? I ask because I found some ECC sticks from Samsung with b-die at CL19 and 2666 MHz. For about 114 Euros per 16GB stick.

    Has someone run ECC and did OC? How big is the gain? 3200MHz possible?

    The tool I use is HWINFO64 portable in sensor-only mode. I don't get temp with a lot of other tools. But you still have to have a sensor "on-dimm" as OnnA said. But give it a try ... I would guess most sticks have one.
     
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    I use HWinfi extensively, but I don't have RAM temps. I guess el-chipo aegis doesn't have that on lol.
     
  10. K.S.

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    lol I'm missing so many of the references on here.... uh... ya ok ya chip-runner' :cool:
     

  11. Clouseau

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    How many of you have seen the base clock as the base? While gaming I see plenty of times the clock on some cores go down below the stated base frequency. As defined by AMD, what is the meaning of base clock? Lowest have seen the multiplier go for my 3800X is 38.25, on a few cores, while gaming.
     
  12. gerardfraser

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    Yes I see below base clock all the time.I would say normal operation.
    My take AMD’s precision boost 2/PBO/PBO Override algorithm is smart and most efficient CPU's made to date.Just turns off cores when not needed at lighting speeds of 1000 x second(I do not know how fast exactly)to keep within a power envelope set by AMD.
    The software can not show with 100% accuracy all the time. Ryzen Master is a good tool to see cores sleeping even on all core overclock.I know you know this ,I am just saying for others and I may be wrong.
    I even see now HWinfo64 has put in effective clock now.

    Base clock I assume is for rated TPD at the clock.I guess base clock is for marking only.I do not know what base clock really is.
     
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    I've never seen my 3700X drop below 3.6 while gaming but it never his boost rating either.
     
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    RM is partially reading crap values. So who knows how precise it is in general.;)
     
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    ,yeah I stick by what I said,so I agree with ya.
     

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    Even at 3.8 cannot complain. Was just curious. The excitement of the moment got the better of me. Saw the 3800X had a base clock of 3.9 so for me it was a no brainer since the best oc I had on the 1700X was 3.9. Got to continue on where I left off so to say.

    EDIT: Now watch, when the next iteration of Ryzen comes out and I switch to an MSI board, Gigabyte will be the ones to have.
     
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  17. 386SX

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    Ryzen Master would master any Ryzen Master's Ryzen as long as the Ryzen Master could master any Ryzen Master's Ryzen; but should a Ryzen Master master a Ryzen Master's Ryzen? :p

    Yes, I love Monkey Island. :D
     
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    If you haven't seen it yet ....
    Mindfactory.de CPU sales from Oct 2018 to Nov 2019
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    Lol, exact same reasoning for me to get the 3800X, base clock is the same as my previous overclock. Plus all the other benefits from Zen 2 :)

    As for base / boost clocks while gaming I'm splitting the difference and seeing a basically consistent all core boost of 4300 - 4350. Some cores may dip to 4200 for a moment or spike to 4400 - 4450.

    All in all very happy with that and much rather take consistent all core boost like this than one or two cores tipping its toes to 4500 occassionally.

    Haven't monitored with latest BIOS yet though /w 1004B AGESA so perhaps now it's even better!
    Above observations with 1003ABB.
     
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    Funny you mentioned the two - still fighting for the update on the ROG STRIX X370-F GAMING ... the 1.0.0.4; on with ASUS now - seeing if I can get transferred to somehow friendly willing to discuss a possible ETA or give an actual yes or no...

    EDIT: Alright so where I am currently at is I have a ticket awaiting reply in the BIOS group over at ASUS in regards to request for further X370 AGESA updates...


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